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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 9, 2023 1:52:46 GMT
I saw that Robert De Niro’s Netflix series was indefinitely suspended! I think “Eric” was very lucky that it is a British production unaffected by the strike and could be finished even when they shot the last weeks in New York.
Now the big question is what will happen with the actors. I mentioned in another thread an interesting quote claiming that contrary to the writers, actors tend to be more fearful because there are too many of them so the competition for roles is wild. In that sense, it’s more risky for them (the ones who aren’t famous, of course) to strike because they are easily replaceable. Still, they already overwhelmingly voted to do it! That could help to a quicker negotiation not just for them but also for the writers.
The other part of the quote was about directos never doing strikes because they are just too close and friendly with producers and studios owners and that seems correct because they quickly negotiated their new contracts and apparently it’s really good for them. Including the part about streaming residuals which it’s the point that writers and actors are asking for.
Anyway, I hope it could be resolved quickly because A Complete Unknown is scheduled for August in New York and it’s a very American production so I doubt it could be excepted like “Eric”.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 9, 2023 1:58:23 GMT
Here is the news about De Niro’s series,
I hope this means that “Eric’ is now the “highest-profile” limited thriller filmed in New York for Netflix and they will give priority to it! 😉
EDITED,
Also, this is interesting,
She negotiated the DGA contract but could ending without writer and potentially actors on set!
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 23, 2023 0:51:56 GMT
I think this is an interesting article,
I have seen writers and sympathizers claiming that outlets are doing pr for studios and TBH, I don’t doubt it! There have been some very questionable headlines and articles but I also wonder if this is true,
I was waiting for anonymous quotes but they are all attributed to names!
Just yesterday, I saw tweets claiming directors would surely vote “no”. But it’s a fact that Twitter activists tend to believe their own fantasies and refuse to see reality. I mean I remember a video of a director saying he will vote “no” even when it’s a great deal in which they personally would get a lot of advantages but his main worry was AI (something the article accepts it’s the weakest part of it) but now writers are claiming on Twitter that it’s a “mid” or even “bad” deal.
According to the article a lot of the people happy with it are line directors. Not the famous big filmmaker but the more humble members. I wonder if something similar could happen with actors. They overwhelmingly voted to strike if the negotiations doesn’t work but I wonder what would happen if they see the director’s contract being approved.
Anyway, we will see tomorrow. As you can see most comments are negative but it was interesting to read a discussion between someone from SAG who is passionately striking and a DGA member who voted “yes”. I considered that maybe DGA members could at least considered to reject the deal but I’m not sure now. We will see.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 24, 2023 2:13:39 GMT
Wow! Variety was right and the Twitter rumor that DGA members would support WGA based on that DGA members in Twitter that said they voted “no” wasn’t true.
People should stop trusting social media! It really doesn’t reflects real world!
We will see what happens with actors soon.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 24, 2023 3:09:59 GMT
By the way, I saw an article early today about WGA allies accusing Kim Kardashian of being a scab for tweeting from AHS set and I thought it was a huge mistake by activists!
Actors CAN’T strike because their contract in the same way, writers were also banned to do it before their own contract expired. Harassing someone who is contractually obligated to work (as writers were!) will only help to studios cases and won’t win them actors sympathy!
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 25, 2023 1:37:45 GMT
Someone is calling this propaganda in the comments even when it is a direct quote!
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 28, 2023 1:22:55 GMT
This is slightly bizarre,
At least they know something publicly unknown, they are threatening their own guild about a deal they still don’t know and which very probably isn’t still decided! I mean, if they don’t agreed with it, they could vote it down and, yep, go on strike without the need of publicly embarrassing their negotiations team beforehand!
It’s being applauded on social media, of course, but it sounds more like a huge political internal division. They don’t seem to trust on their elected leader and, interesting enough, it seems she will be easily re-elected soon (she doesn’t have a rival for the first time in many years)
We will see what happens next Friday
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 28, 2023 2:19:46 GMT
By the way, I read an interesting piece about the class difference between writers and the last WGA strike in 2008. Then, celebrities were allowed to be more open about what they really thought and they were allowed to have some nasty words about others without risking to lose their reputations on social media and maybe it wasn’t nice of them and they could be completely wrong about their opinions but at least people really knew what others were thinking and weren’t so surprised when they suddenly discovered the majority didn’t agreed with them!
Anyway, after weeks of the strike, the author interviewed David E Kelly and Todd Phillips and they were furious about the much more humble writers that were stopping them for working with their strike. They basically thought that most of them weren’t really scriptwriters because most of them were unemployed. They were just members of the guild trying to make it in Hollywood and asking for ridiculous compensations. They said they weren’t really on strike because they never had a job in the first time! The author contacted them trying to know what they think now but only Kelly answered saying he totally supported the strike.
Those were the rich and famous writers with an enviable job versus the ones with maybe humble jobs or no jobs at all! Sadly, that’s true in Hollywood: too many people for almost no jobs.
Now, Variety obtained some less snobbish but similar comments in their article about the DGA piece. The difference was that they didn’t interviewed famous directors but humble line directors and other members of the crew that are part of the guild without being rich and powerful, they were people with jobs who just wanted to work! (The very few opposing views on Twitter by industry people are mostly by crew members who are desperate to work and angry that they are losing jobs because the writers strike. They are saying that now they can’t pay schools nor the rent).
I don know who really voted for the contract and who doesn’t: the star filmmakers or the crew members below them? There weren’t too many voters (something apparently normal in all the guilds so it’s not true it’s only the directors who are apathetic), but it was overwhelming approved.
It would be interesting to see how this difference between poor and rich actors affects SAG. Obviously, the unemployed numbers should be bigger with actors. Much more competition! Someone say those in risk of not getting or losing jobs would be the most desperate to go out to find a job (I saw a tweet by an actor strongly criticizing the rich and famous who signed this letter, by the way!). On the other hand, maybe they are the ones with less to lose! We will see!
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Post by MagdaFR on Jun 28, 2023 10:13:37 GMT
I don know who really voted for the contract and who doesn’t: the star filmmakers or the crew members below them? There weren’t too many voters (something apparently normal in all the guilds so it’s not true it’s only the directors who are apathetic), but it was overwhelming approved. It wasn't that overwhelming if only 36% of the guild voted to accept the deal (86% of 42% who voted +/-). The actors who signed the letter probably know better than us what's going on. Also, I imagine that most of them want to support the writers, some of them are writers too like Ben Stiler.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 28, 2023 10:43:50 GMT
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