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Post by sgev1977 on Nov 5, 2022 11:38:47 GMT
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Post by llminnowpea on Nov 5, 2022 11:43:41 GMT
Ah, a fellow rubbernecker! Ha!
This is what we get for reading every single tweet, every single tumblr post (what? Just me? Hush) and every single article about BC. We want deeper content!
DEEPER.
Er, sorry. I made an apple cake that has a metric ton of sugar in it and I can now see the future AND through the wall. Ha!
Though, I will admit I am a sucker for new photos shown in many clickbaity articles. A lot of the time, I just scan them quickly to see if anything new is written and then just gaze at the photos like the lovesick teenager grown-up fan that I am.
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Post by mllemass on Jan 4, 2023 2:11:06 GMT
If you haven’t already seen the Pitch Meeting for the Multiverse of Madness, you can watch it again here in this compilation video of Pitch Meetings from 2022. It starts at 5:53. But if you have an hour to kill, you should watch all of it! They’re hilarious!
I laughed out loud for the entire time, (and Ryan George continues to be a cutie)
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Post by mllemass on May 25, 2023 12:21:54 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 13, 2023 13:38:04 GMT
I really hate “narratives” and dumb people refusing to see facts, www.worldofreel.com/blog/2023/8/12/m4ao068h8ou0fdg11hq03yzivrkknmIt’s cool if you enjoyed Guardians more or even saying it was better received by the critics but DS2 did $955 millions and maths don’t lie. It was bigger than Guardians! How he dares to put it with those movies that were considered disappointments in the box office?!
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 13, 2023 14:19:38 GMT
I am thinking about how BC has low key made a very strong career while media/social media narratives kinda underappreciated him. I just read a tweet claiming his Smaug is one of the better voice works ever but I remember that at the time, critics were convinced it wasn’t him! He was so good that it just couldn’t be him! It was just a computer trick, some technicians altered his voice and he was hired only because it was the “Sherlock guy” and his place should had been occupied by a “real” voice actor who didn’t needed computers to do creepy voices! Of course, it was him! There was a precedent, he did a similar voice for the evil Angel of Islington in Neverwhere and, of course, he already had a long experience working on radio! Still, official reviews at the time suggested he was a fraud! It took years for him receiving praise for his brilliant and almost unnatural work! Again, he was so good that it couldn’t be human. And you can say, a lot of similar stories about other voice works and narration works (He did a comedic voice for The Grinch that showed how versatile he is but people wanted him to sound like himself; his acclaimed work in that Marvel cartoon wasn’t awarded because they went for more politically correct nominees/winners; the same with Super/Natural, etc)
I also remember some comments about how he isn’t very popular. For example, someone on IMDb forums saying he and the other British guys never having a real box office hit with their names on it and how their popularity was just social media centered. This after TIG did $233M from a $15M budget! (He actually admitted his error after reading about it! That doesn’t happen in social media, tho!). And of course, old style movie stars doesn’t exist anymore and I wouldn’t like for BC to be limited by that but, apart of a pair of box office deceptions, he has had a good streak. I remember not just social media comments but even that ridiculous The Telegraph piece claiming he was a failure because the damned since the beginning TCW wasn’t nominated to the Oscars but, at the same time of all the drama around that film and his producer, BC did some daring awarded TV work while gaining millions not just with Marvel but also The Grinch. Again, maybe not your favorite franchise but he was in two of the biggest record breaking worldwide box office hits that year while he was also being acclaimed and winning BAFTAS for the very dark and disturbing Patrick Melrose! Still, media considered him uncool while salivating for some mediocre masculine lead men who not just weren’t very successful in box office but also kinda ruined their good luck with auteurs with their terrible behavior on sets or terrible works as producers (Yes, I’m thinking on some actors in particular!).
Anyway, he is till here doing great! I just think he is smarter.
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Post by jbc12 on Aug 13, 2023 15:01:33 GMT
(Yes, I’m thinking on some actors in particular!). Now I'm curious, lol. I just think he is smarter. I believe he is, too. His career choices have been brilliant, even if he has been underappreciated. The smartest thing he's done is just ignore all the noise. He keeps his head down and goes from project to project, pretty much irrespective of how each work is received. He ticks that box for himself and moves on to the next challenge. It's really interesting (and clever) how he's built this massive and diverse catalogue of work, and seamlessly moved between different genres, without his detractors even noticing.
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Post by queenzod on Aug 13, 2023 15:19:23 GMT
I think he learned early on to just put his head down and do the work. That’s the part he loves best and what interests him the most. He’s an actor’s actor, as they say. He’d probably rather not be famous or popular at all and instead develop himself and his skills while working with the best he can find. He’s wildly respected by his peers and rarely (if ever), do we hear a bad comment about him, and those are usually idiot disgruntled fans, autograph sellers, or, as you say, social media “personalities.”
Remember even Josh Brolin was so impressed by his Smaug voice work that he decided to take the part of Thanos. (Not that Thanos is Hamlet or anything but it speaks to how BC’s work ethic and dedication to a role influences others.) He’s built a really impressive catalogue of work over the past 15 years or so - that’s hard to do in his field and basically starting at the bottom!
So I think the opinions of a few social media commentators looking to stir up controversy using his name as clickbait know very well what they’re doing. They’re using negative opinions to drive engagement to get clicks and advertising dollars. It’s about them, not about him. They live in a world of desperate people trying to become celebrities so that colors their viewpoint about what’s important. He works steadily and that means he puts out a lot of projects. Some of them are better than others and that’s the way it is. I find lots to admire even in things I don’t like so well overall (5th Estate, koff koff).
Personally, even though we don’t get to see as much of him as I would like in comparison to those early, heady days when he was everywhere, I’m glad he’s living a somewhat normal life now with his family and his work. He’s well respected by those who matter, people seem to adore him, and even if his fan base has grown smaller there’s no bad to that. Most of the ones who have faded away were the flighty young people who are looking for the next young cutie. If they want to crush on someone with the personality of underdone toast they can, but they’re the ones losing out.
ps.there was just a fav poll on Twitter about 4 British actors including BC, David Tennet, someone named Barnes (?), and someone else. Once Ben’s fans found it he crushed it, lol. Cue moaning saying BC’s fans rigged the poll.
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Post by mllemass on Aug 13, 2023 15:51:28 GMT
Remember during the promotion for Desolation of Smaug? Whenever he was asked about doing the voice, he would add “And the motion capture!” Ha! He must have said it a million times.
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 13, 2023 16:13:39 GMT
He is popular or at least very known/beloved actor but journalists and Film Twitter have their own favorites and they live in a little bubble with their own narratives: In this case “Twitter personality James Gunn movie was the last big Marvel movie” and the rest, including DS2 failed in the box office even when DS2 ACTUALLY did more money (with worse reviews, yes, but that was considered a bigger achievement years ago!).
I just think some journalists just doesn’t see the whole picture because they are obsessed with their own preconceptions.
In the case of the other actors I was thinking of, well, one of them has an important film with an important American auteur for the next Oscar race so he maybe will do a big comeback (and another one with a “lesser” auteur who was beloved by Film Twitter but not anymore so we will see) Good for him! He is good! They all are! But even when he frequently worked with very important filmmakers and was beloved by critics, the public wasn’t warm to him. He did a popular comic book adaptation but it was more about group effort than a charismatic lead and infamously, a poll showed that people lose interest on an award vehicle he starred after hearing DiCaprio was the original lead actor. More telling, he seemed to really want to be a lead popular actor and produced a few movies that were huge disappointment. And I don’t mean something like TFE or TCW, which were controversial and kinda mistreated by producers because their particular controversies but movies totally designed to be popular that failed miserably in the box office in part because the “weak” lead actor. Probably, he retired for a few years because that. You can say that those failures really affected his career. At least, for a time!
The other one was considered “the new Brando” and he kinda sounds like him… mumbling his way like Brando did in The Godfather. Always! Like the other one, he is very rough and suggests working class cred (even when he isn’t working class). The opposite of BC’s poshness! Supposedly, he is very physical and versatile but he has years always giving the same performance. He is also a violent and rude asshole but he was always justifying because apparently his targets always deserved it, including a famous female actor! He didn’t beat her! Just threatened her. He beat a few male actors, tho. It took years for people daring to criticize him. And you know, BC has been misinterpreted by social media multiple times for a lot of harmless stuff, including for things that happened centuries before he born! Anyway, this actor is, at least, more charismatic than the first actor but I would dare to say that his problematic behavior isn’t considered so cute nowadays. It’s still amazing how one of his now forgotten very bad recent movies was justified as a some kind of great “guilty pleasure” by Film Twitter! Well, at least they tried! Again, I’m not sure someone still remember it! Maybe I’m wrong but, apart of a comic book movie, I’m not sure he has a lot of new projects.
I hope you can guess who I’m talking about! 😉
EDITED, I checked the last guy IMDb, it seems he has a “respected” new project with a few considered cool names. We will see. It seems an ensamble thing. Again, about “rough” people! He is very “rough”! 😉 By the way, there was an idiot “feminist” critic who wanted this guy for Phil Burbank because he is the only “rough” actor from his generation. Talking about not understanding TPOTD! Thankfully, Jane Campion is an intelligent filmmaker with actually good taste and why she would want to work with a guy who famously was rude to, at least, two important filmmakers!
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