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Post by queenzod on Dec 18, 2022 23:54:26 GMT
Okay, y’all got me interested in WL so I binged it over the last 2 days. It was very good and I enjoyed it a lot. I liked the first season better than the second - it seemed sharper and more pointed somehow and moved along quicker. I got very bored by about the 4th or 5th ep in the second season, with those horrible 2 couples just yammering on and on and frankly, I didn’t care about the prostitutes. I know you’re supposed to want to smack Harley (was that her name?), but she wore on me pretty quickly and I didn’t see what Will’s character liked about her at all. The other couple were more intriguing with their willful, pretending blindness (especially the woman), and I wanted a bit more about Valentina.
The last ep was certainly worth the wait, though. I’m yelling at Jennifer Coolidge to take her shoes off before she jumped but of course she didn’t. What an idiot.
The last shot of the 3 guys all checking out the pretty woman as she passed by at the airport was brilliant. Men never change, lol. 60 years of chauvinism, right there.
It was good - made me hate super rich people more than ever. 😂
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Post by sgev1977 on Dec 19, 2022 2:33:20 GMT
I think Audrey Plaza character was unbearable at the beginning but she becomes IMHO more sympathetic when she began suspecting of her husband. I mean he was indeed innocent but how to believe that’s the case from her point of view! Also her performance is great! I hated her but at certain point I really feel for her! She was pretty alone there with that deluded couple and her ineffectual husband. Of course, it got really ugly when she kissed or had sex with the other guy! By the way, he is the character I really hated! Just a horrible man! He harassed her in one of the early episodes when he flashed her and she actually told it her husband (she was sincere to him until the late episodes, he didn’t even when he wasn’t doing anything wrong! That’s why she felt betrayed by him. He wasn’t unfaithful to her but preferred to be “faithful” to the male friend instead of her and lied to her) but he just ignored her! He just reacted when he felt his friend betrayed him having sex with his wife so like the young Italian American boy, he was also just another “macho”. It was just a competition between men and the only way to restore things was to get the other man’s woman.
I also don’t thing the deluded relationship between the other two was something sane. I saw a few on Twitter saying how wise was Daphne but she was clearly affected by the news. She is just deluding herself. The same with her husband, you can see it when he kinda refused to talk with *his* son for a few seconds. In an early episode it’s suggested that maybe he is the offspring of her personal trained not him and it’s clear he knows it but then after those few seconds he like her happily talks to him. It’s a very toxic relationship! The other two had problems but probably it wasn’t the best to imitating them. They seemed happy at the end but if their marriage ends like the other couple then I’m not sure they would be really happy. It’s a facade like Plaza’s character knew since day one. Probably what she didn’t understood was how easy was for rich people to be there! They were new rich!
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Post by queenzod on Dec 19, 2022 3:08:00 GMT
Unlikeable people all the way around, but well acted for sure.
I just thought of a difference between the WL people and that unlikeable family from Succession. In Succession you actually have some kind thoughts and feelings for the characters, even if they’re just as horrible and messed up as those in WL. Maybe because they’re more pathetic, in a way? And also unconsciously blind similar to how Daphne was, although she wasn’t really unconscious about it. It was also reflected in them not paying attention to the news, or politics, or the climate crisis, or anything unpleasant. She knew perfectly well how horrible her husband was but chose to ignore the things she didn’t care for, and to get back at him without telling him, like sleeping with her trainer. That seems worse somehow, to me, to know the truth but choose your ignorance rather than to not be aware of your terrible behaviors at all.
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Post by sgev1977 on Dec 19, 2022 10:32:09 GMT
Yes, they were very toxic,
I only watched the first episode of Succession. I know it’s sacrilege but it didn’t catch my attention! Lol I’m sometimes a contrarian about popular series. I haven’t watched a lot of them! Specially when they are too long! I prefer mini series.
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Post by MagdaFR on Dec 19, 2022 14:24:33 GMT
I only watched the first episode of Succession. I know it’s sacrilege but it didn’t catch my attention! Lol I’m sometimes a contrarian about popular series. I haven’t watched a lot of them! Specially when they are too long! I prefer mini series. I had watched less than an episode, I think, back in 2018. I wasn't interested in it and then, I continue reading comments about it and I started watching again during the covid lockdown and I watched both series available. It grows on you.
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Post by roverpup on Dec 19, 2022 16:12:30 GMT
Succession does grow on you. It's one of those series that you have to watch a number of episode before you can fully appreciate its brilliance.
When I first started watch I thought it was OK and interesting but I didn't think it was the type of show that I was excited to see what the next episode would bring. But as I got to know the characters more in depth you realise just how deep the writing is. Each character is such a fully realised person with their own "story" and they way they intermingle is just... fascinating!
Dan and I are watching an old series right now called "City on a Hill" and it is somewhat like that. It took about six episodes to get to know the characters and now we are in the second season and we can't wait to see what will happen next! Kevin Bacon is one of the stars and he is just great! Such a slime ball! An absolute horrible man! But there is an element of pathos about him that keeps you fascinated with him.
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Post by queenzod on Dec 19, 2022 17:21:36 GMT
I didn’t even want to watch Succession, lol. Who wants to watch a show about a bunch of extremely unlikeable super rich arseholes? But I was captured by the 3rd episode. It’s brilliant. The writing, the acting, the backstabbing. It really is a modern King Lear. Maybe it’s my internal misogynist but I find the daughter to be the most absolutely horriblist. No moral compass whatsoever and no excuse to be like she is.
I guess the 3rd season starts soon - January? and I cannot wait.
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Post by sgev1977 on Mar 20, 2023 17:57:47 GMT
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Post by queenzod on Mar 22, 2023 13:24:42 GMT
WS picked up a TV BAFTA nom for his role in White Lotus. So did Martin Freeman for First Responder.
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Post by mllemass on Mar 22, 2023 14:02:42 GMT
While I haven’t seen either WS or MF in these performances, and I’m happy for them both - come on! They still haven’t awarded a Bafta to Benedict for Sherlock, but they’ll just hand them out to anyone!
(Yes, I’m bitter about it)
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