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Nov 29, 2019 8:41:23 GMT
Post by susigo on Nov 29, 2019 8:41:23 GMT
Yes, I was wondering about the hair question as well when I googled Stu Couch and then thought of Benedict's angel curls. Anyway, I am quite happy that he is acting in the film as well since I originally thought he was producing only.
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Dec 4, 2019 22:11:42 GMT
Post by MagdaFR on Dec 4, 2019 22:11:42 GMT
He's filming in Cape Town.
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Dec 7, 2019 4:30:55 GMT
Post by prudence on Dec 7, 2019 4:30:55 GMT
I’ve seen at least one post on twitter calling for a boycott of this movie because Benedict is portraying Stu Couch as a hero. Sounds like he was during the time that the movie covers, but turned out to be Very controversial after being appointed by Trump to a judgeship and threatening a young immigrant. Wonder if they will adjust how he is portrayed at all based on more recent controversies. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Couch
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Dec 7, 2019 7:25:44 GMT
Post by mllemass on Dec 7, 2019 7:25:44 GMT
I just read the Wikipedia article on Stuart Couch, and I think a boycott of the movie is kind of ridiculous. Threatening children is pretty awful, I agree, but he never followed through on the threats, and never intended to ever follow through. But of course the children didn’t know that they were empty threats, and so would have been terrified.
I have to say that this is very similar to the disciplining that took place in my family when I was growing up. I don’t approve of it at all, but there are people who believe that scaring children is the way to get them to behave. I still remember, when I was very little, my mother telling me that if I was bad, they would send me away to live at a school where the nuns were mean and would hit me if I misbehaved. No such place existed, but I didn’t know that and was very worried. My mother would even name a distant relative of ours whose parents had sent her to this scary school.
More recently, my cousin and her husband live on a property that isn’t fenced in on one end. When their children were small, they kept their kids close to the house by telling them that a scary wolf would get them if they went to the unfenced end of the property.
The “big bad wolf” threat has been around forever, and it sounds like Stuart Couch is still using a version of it.
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Dec 7, 2019 11:38:13 GMT
Post by sgev1977 on Dec 7, 2019 11:38:13 GMT
I knew this movie would be polemic and I have already seen a blue checked militar on Twitter claiming Mohamedou Ould Slahi is a terrorist and deserved worst of what happened to him! But that tweet was a surprise! I mean, I agreed, a system that put infants on trials is completely rotten and it seems this Couch guy didn't treat at least one very small child as a decent person would do in a scary situation but what the hell it has to do with Guantanamo?! At least wait to see how the movie actually portrays him!
I would assume those two or three persons (the woman who wrote the tweet and the one or two who asked which movie so they can boycott it) are all pro-torture. That's the only conclusion! If the movie, BC (for playing him) and the rest of the crew and cast are responsible for what this guy told to kids during the awful immigration trials just because they agreed with him in that torture is not good then it's obvious they think the torture of innocent people is great. Everything is black or white!
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Dec 7, 2019 15:59:24 GMT
Post by MagdaFR on Dec 7, 2019 15:59:24 GMT
I agree that this film was always going to be polemic and I imagine BC knows that.
Stuart Couch though ... I didn't relate him to the immigration judge who interrogated a two years old boy. The thing with the dog is supplementary imo, how can anybody interrogate a two years old over immigration? It is demential.
The woman who posted that Couch was going to be shown as a hero is an immigration attorney. So it is natural that she is worried about it. Also, I think Couch may be shown in a good light in the film because he at least decided to not continue being the prosecutor.
I think all military guys are awful, who chooses to kill people as a job?
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Post by ellie on Dec 7, 2019 16:42:54 GMT
I’m nostalgic for the days when people actually waited till a film was released before passing judgement.
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Post by prudence on Dec 7, 2019 17:36:29 GMT
Isn’t it possible that human beings are complex and someone can be heroic in one instance and a jackass in another? Isn’t it possible that some people regress and evolve into worse versions of themselves rather than better? Focus should just be on telling the story of this prisoner and what actually happened. If he was heroic in this circumstance so be it. If he’s a jerk now as well, so be it.
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Dec 7, 2019 18:11:54 GMT
Post by MagdaFR on Dec 7, 2019 18:11:54 GMT
Isn’t it possible that human beings are complex and someone can be heroic in one instance and a jackass in another? Isn’t it possible that some people regress and evolve into worse versions of themselves rather than better? Focus should just be on telling the story of this prisoner and what actually happened. If he was heroic in this circumstance so be it. If he’s a jerk now as well, so be it. Yes, of course. I agree with all you've written.
But, sometimes it's not easy to separate both parts. Was SC against torture before and now he's not? Perhaps he just wanted that the trial was clean and not muddled because the way it was handled.
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Dec 7, 2019 18:26:25 GMT
Post by MagdaFR on Dec 7, 2019 18:26:25 GMT
The tweet we are referring to:
And I found another one by another immigrant attorney:
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