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Post by roverpup on May 17, 2018 2:31:30 GMT
I think it’s not obvious (as the others) because they aren’t THAT popular but The Ice Storm is in great part about the disintegration of a family that it seemed perfect at the beginning so maybe that’s the point. I loved how at the beginning of Mother’s Milk, Patrick is just “dad” (the narrator describes things from the point of view of his oldest son Robert who loves and admires his “perfect” father) and it’s not mentioned his name until his insecurities resufarce (and the narrator change of point of view). It’s the suggestion that Patrick could had been a brilliant and well-grounded kid as Robert if he wouldn’t suffered the awful abuse. In the movie Kevin Kline is this pathetic middle aged man who commits adultery. That’s another connection! The Ice Storm is one of those movie that just sticks with you long after you walk out of the cinema (or turn off your TV set). And I totally think you are spot on about the remark about the suggestion that Patrick could have been a child like his son is, if he only hadn't suffered the horrible childhood that he did. Patrick to his credit desperately wants to break the cycle of abuse that was perpetuated by his father. I absolutely loved the narrator change of POV in MM. It was such a moment when I felt myself noting the author's use of this approach - it's hard to describe just how that simple technique made me feel... just so appreciative of his careful thoughtfulness of how he was telling this part of the story. Remarkable! Just part of why I loved these books so much! :-))
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Post by sgev1977 on May 17, 2018 2:58:57 GMT
The story is that Mother’s Milk wasn’t a Patrick Melrose novel. Some Hope was originally the last book. If I remember well, the dad in MM was called Mark. After he finished the book he decided it was, after all, a Patrick Melrose book because it was also autobiographical. He changed the names of Mark and his mother (to Eleanor). Johnny is also there so I guess he also changed him but the rest of the characters are all new (in the adaptation Julia is in the first and it seems third episode but those were other female characters in the books) and there is not any mention of the father, the rape or the drugs. That’s the reason Gerry Fox gave when asked why Patrick’s past is not mentioned in his movie. They aren’t in book and that’s the book he knew and wanted to adapt. He read the others after decided to adapt it.
The structure is also very different compared to the others. I’m wondering how they will adapt it in just one hour. There is much more plot and it’s not just about a few days or hours like the others. It’s about a few summer family vacations. In the movie, they centered in just one summer in France but based in the trailers they go to vacation to both France and the USA as in the book.
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Post by roverpup on May 17, 2018 4:38:51 GMT
The story is that Mother’s Milk wasn’t a Patrick Melrose novel. Some Hope was originally the last book. If I remember well, the dad in MM was called Mark. After he finished the book he decided it was, after all, a Patrick Melrose book because it was also autobiographical. He changed the names of Mark and his mother (to Eleanor). Johnny is also there so I guess he also changed him but the rest of the characters are all new (in the adaptation Julia is in the first and it seems third episode but those were other female characters in the books) and there is not any mention of the father, the rape or the drugs. That’s the reason Gerry Fox gave when asked why Patrick’s past is not mentioned in his movie. They aren’t in book and that’s the book he knew and wanted to adapt. He read the others after decided to adapt it. The structure is also very different compared to the others. I’m wondering how they will adapt it in just one hour. There is much more plot and it’s not just about a few days or hours like the others. It’s about a few summer family vacations. In the movie, they centered in just one summer in France but based in the trailers they go to vacation to both France and the USA as in the book. It's amazing though how well this novel does fit like a puzzle piece into the story arc of Patrick. It's difference in structure only makes his journey a stronger story, I think. This is Patrick examining his live and deciding (albeit through trial and error) where he wants to go with his life. And trying to come to terms with his faults, and accept himself so he can be a more complete person. :-))
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Post by sgev1977 on May 17, 2018 14:41:10 GMT
If someone wants to vote:
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Post by roverpup on May 17, 2018 15:21:03 GMT
I voted ! Who could resist that arched eyebrow!!!
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Post by sgev1977 on May 20, 2018 2:36:20 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on May 27, 2018 2:36:48 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 19, 2018 20:58:55 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 20, 2018 12:27:30 GMT
Interesting bit of information:
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Post by ellie on Jun 20, 2018 12:33:29 GMT
Is he saying he turned it down?!
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