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Post by sgev1977 on Feb 15, 2020 12:42:43 GMT
There are some things that become central to criticism on movies because they are mentioned one or twice and then it became or are considered a "trope". There was always polemic around the fact that the "mature" lover of Dustin Hoffman in The Graduate was Anne Bancroft who was just 5 years older. She probably had the right age for the role but Hoffman was too old to play a teenager! He kind of looked younger! Anyway feminists rightly thought it was kind of unfair to mature actresses to be cast as mothers of old actors or the mothers of the girlfriends of old actors. Fair! Then in the 90s other examples were added: In Forrest Gum, two actors who previously played lovers were now playing mother and son. That was a wrong example, actually, because again Sally Field played mostly the mother of the child version of Tom Hanks! But still it was widely mentioned as how Hollywood is nasty with mature women. Then social media came and these kind of criticisms became even more obsessive and in some cases, illogical. For example, people angry at Ralph Finnes for directing a movie in which his ex-lover in The English Patient plays the mother of his romantic interest! Sounds awful, right? Except that it's a bio and his role, Charles Dickens left his wife for a very young woman in real life. More important: the film is from the point of view of the girl and it crudely shows how nasty was Dickens with his wife and women in his life, in general! It actually sides with the women and show the big artist as a male chauvinist that was free to behave like a dick thanks to his fame and masculinity! Instead of being celebrated for its feminism it was attacked because a "trope" in the casting that was in this case based in real life stuff!
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Post by sgev1977 on Feb 16, 2020 14:33:20 GMT
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Post by mllemass on Feb 16, 2020 15:33:17 GMT
I don’t know if he’s playing a ranch worker, but he definitely looks like one!
I see he was a regular in the Brokenwood Mysteries, but I’m only on S3 right now, so he’s not in them yet.
Actually, he’s in the episode I just started watching! He plays a mechanic who’s nicknamed Frodo, and I remember him from one previous episode.
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Post by sgev1977 on Feb 16, 2020 15:52:41 GMT
He was also in Slow West with Kodi Smit-McPhee and also produced by See-Saw. Members of the crew also worked in that film. It would not surprise me that more people from that film come to work in this one, too. They are locals and already showed to the producers that they are good doing westerns.
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Post by sgev1977 on Feb 19, 2020 2:07:43 GMT
I forgot to say how happy I'm with Frances Conroy being in the cast. I think she is a great actress who is always very interesting to watch. Curiously I think she tends to play women slightly older than herself because I remember her sons in Six Feet Under were barely a decade younger than her (12 years and 18 respectively). She also played Cate Blanchett's mother in The Aviator (just 16 years younger). All these related to the theme above!
She is mostly a TV and theater actress but I hear wonderful things about her recent role in Joker. I haven't watched it but people who talked me about it praised her a lot, without knowing her by name. Apparently her role is even crazier than Phonix's. I really would like to know who is she playing in the film.
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Post by onebluestocking on Feb 19, 2020 20:43:32 GMT
She was very good. She plays Arthur/Joker's frail, homebound mother. I don't know if her role is crazier; they are very similar characters because both have imaginary romantic relationships they aren't really in. Her with Bruce Wayne(Batman)'s father, him with the pretty neighbor down the hall. Then there is a tragic end.
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Post by mllemass on Mar 4, 2020 15:48:53 GMT
We were right - he’s playing Peter.
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Post by MagdaFR on Mar 4, 2020 16:10:08 GMT
This is the article from the Otago Daily News but with a video.
I wonder if everybody is going to Auckland.
Also
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Post by sgev1977 on Mar 4, 2020 16:31:57 GMT
I think it's kind of funny because obviously they would always use someone in his twenties to play the teenager boy because the themes of the film but the woke movement that never care for context surely would be offended... if the movie were directed by a man!
We will see what happens! He surely looks very young!
EDITED Also it says they will go to Auckland next. I wonder if they already wrapped the film or if they go to do the set work that it was mentioned in early articles that they would do in February. I remember the cinematographers site saying the shooting will last 10 weeks. That would mean all this month and maybe a few days in April.
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Post by onebluestocking on Mar 4, 2020 17:56:22 GMT
Peter is supposed to be college-aged when the story takes place.
Yes, if he were a young girl, the same people who don't like American Beauty now would probably complain.
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