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Post by sgev1977 on May 12, 2020 18:39:10 GMT
I just discovered this ridiculous polemic about The Lord of the Flies... I have to say that if you believe that humans are inherently good and noble and to prove it you not just purposely search for a nice cute real life story that you think contradicts that disturbing book you read when you were young but also falsely claim that the author was a nazi that used to physically abuse his kids then I fear you aren't very convincing about that goodwill stuff between humans! LOL Also why The Guardian never fact-check their articles? Probably nowadays very few newspapers do but it seems to me The Guardian is famous for that! I remember that Sorry I Haven't a Clue used to make fun of that since ages ago! They still haven't corrected the article even when the daughter is telling them it's fake!
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Post by sgev1977 on May 12, 2020 18:40:44 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on May 12, 2020 18:55:09 GMT
Ewww! I just checked the hashtag and of course, it's full of ignorant people who were "forced" to read the "awful" book when they were kids and were incapable of understanding and now are happy that the author is being revealed as... a racist!? The context of the book is of course totally ignored:
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Post by mllemass on May 12, 2020 18:58:35 GMT
Speaking of Lord of the Flies. . .
I’ve been reading about that real-life Lord of the Flies story - an actual group of boys who were shipwrecked in the 1960’s and had to fend for themselves. They survived just fine, without turning into savages - disproving Golding’s novel.
When we studied the novel in high school, we had to write an essay about how the nature of human beings is to turn into savages when the facade of polite society is stripped away. I remember telling my teacher that I disagreed with that theme, and I wanted to prove that the opposite was true. He told me to go ahead and do it, so I did. I still have the essay somewhere. I used the events of the novel to show that the boys eventually re-created the only world they had ever known - a world that was at war. I think I got an A on that essay.
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Post by queenzod on May 12, 2020 19:11:29 GMT
Golding is interested in that space where human goodness bumps up against human savagery. It’s an interesting thing to play around with, and anyone who think LotF is some kind of template for human behavior is fooling themselves.
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Post by sgev1977 on May 12, 2020 19:46:17 GMT
Speaking of Lord of the Flies. . . I’ve been reading about that real-life Lord of the Flies story - an actual group of boys who were shipwrecked in the 1960’s and had to fend for themselves. They survived just fine, without turning into savages - disproving Golding’s novel. When we studied the novel in high school, we had to write an essay about how the nature of human beings is to turn into savages when the facade of polite society is stripped away. I remember telling my teacher that I disagreed with that theme, and I wanted to prove that the opposite was true. He told me to go ahead and do it, so I did. I still have the essay somewhere. I used the events of the novel to show that the boys eventually re-created the only world they had ever known - a world that was at war. I think I got an A on that essay. The person who discovered/purposely searched for that tale to disapprove Golding is the guy who falsely claimed he beat his kids! I remember a teacher saying it was a beautiful book and I didn't understand why until he said it was because it faithfully and sincerely portrayed human nature. Golding wasn't sanitized anything as popular books about posh heroic white kids did at the beginning of the century. Agreed that it's about the reflection of human civilization as a whole but I think as a teacher Golding believed in education as a some kind of salvation from our most basic human instincts.
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