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Post by sgev1977 on Mar 3, 2017 12:55:18 GMT
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Post by roverpup on Mar 9, 2017 15:35:35 GMT
This is an old piece on BC and DS (and as such was probably seen on the old IMDb board) but I am reproducing it here mainly because of the theme - that in doing Dr. Strange, Cumberbatch could go on to do projects of a very different nature (which at the time had not yet been announced in the media). www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/dr-strange-bendict-cumberbatch-and-marvel-movie-stardom-w449008I'll highlight a couple of passages which I think are germane to this topic - And I think that is what we are seeing with his use of Sunnymarch (and Sunnymarch TV) - him now able to get projects greenlit by that "sheer clout" afforded him by the success of DS. I am with Peter Travers in hoping DS will allow a BC to make "well-balanced cinematic diet... that send us dimension-hopping in completely different ways." Travers' "delusional hope" is well on the way to becoming a reality I think.👌😊 :-))
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Post by queenzod on Mar 9, 2017 15:48:21 GMT
I'm not so sure what's delusional about that idea. Actors have been doing it for decades. Johnny Depp, Evan MacGregor, Daniel Radcliffe, and I'm sure many others I can't think of right now have all alternated blockbusters with smaller/indie films. Heck, even Marilyn Monroe made pictures to pay the rent and sought to improve her craft onstage.
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Post by roverpup on Mar 9, 2017 17:05:46 GMT
It was a rather strange use of that term, wasn't it. But I do think he (Travers) was basically just trying to be supportive of BC moving into that echelon of actors. It is heady company to keep and not every actor gets to do that.
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 18, 2017 13:02:09 GMT
This is not a review but I watched it for a second time and strangely I have decided that this and TTSS are now my two favorite movies (for the big screen!) with him! I'm not a comic book fan and all you know that I wasn't very excited with this particular project but the movie is great. Yes, in a big Hollywood commercial way but still it has a director vision (which the very acclaimed The Avengers actually didn't: it was just some clever phrases in middle of boring fights awfully filmed. Seriously it could have been made for TV in the 90s!), great visuals with reference to fantasy classics like Doctor Caligari and Altered States and a very modern story about a conflict between fanatics who are well intentioned and want a better world but see the world just in black and white (there is even a "you are in the wrong side of history". I have seen a lot of "you are in te wrong side of history" recently on Twitter by well-intentioned kids who clearly doesn't know too much about history!) with the heros being the maybe not so noble but flexible and common sense ones ("c'mon look your face").
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Post by roverpup on Apr 18, 2017 14:06:10 GMT
I can relate to your way of thinking. I am definitely NOT a superhero comic book film fans (I can count on one hand the films from that genre I have watched and on two fingers the ones that I have enjoyed) and yet I finally decided to watch DS because of BC. I wouldn't rate it as my favourite big budget film for him (STiD still rates higher on my personal enjoyment scale) but I really did like the total vision that SD had for DS and how much real love he put into the film - and it showed up on the screen by the bucketful IMO.
I also think that SD was able to show BC his vision of how complex the characters were in his pitch and that's what drew BC into such a project. And SD delivered on his vision that he presented in the pitch to BC.
The only thing I wish was that the movie was a bit longer - it did seem hurried in spots as far as the characterisations go - sometimes the internal expressions and thoughts of Strange (and others) seemed telegraphed or shorthanded rather than drawn out which I think would have made the movie even better to me.
But thank goodness that SD was blessed with such a superbly skilled cast (TS, CE, RMcA, MM and of course BC) who were capable of highly nuanced performances even with the truncated amount of time for introspective scenes. They still were able to pull off the very deep subtleties that were required to give the characters a roundness that gave them complex personalities.
Special effects are the very last thing that entices me to go to a movie but I do appreciate when well made special effects feed into the story and the characters instead of being the "star" of the film. And even though the special effects were jaw droppingly showy they still didn't overwhelm the written story which was about the journey of growth that Strange goes through.
It will be interesting where this character heads now that the origin story has been established. I probably won't be seeing the new Avengers: Infinity Wars movie (I really don't think with the huge cast that is assembled that BC or DS will have a significant enough of a role to overcome my disinclination towards comic book movies) but I am totally on board with BC in hoping (and expecting) that SD will be behind the lense in the Doctor Strange sequel (whenever they decide to tell us about it). He would be the only one I would fully trust to "get it right" for this character - because obviously he is such a devoted fan to, not only DS, but also to classic cinema which runs through his work like a ribbon.
I really appreciate his love, devotion and enthusiasm for all things "Strange".
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Post by queenzod on Apr 18, 2017 14:09:51 GMT
I showed DS to a friend over the weekend. When I asked her if she liked it, she shrugged and said, "yeah, scenes and then fighting. It was okay. It was a typical Marvel movie." I then pointed out that DS only killed one man in the whole movie, for which he expressed regret. Also, instead of wrecking an entire city at the end, he actually turned that all around by reversing time so no one was hurt at the end and the city was rebuilt. Also also, he used his wits to beat Dormmamu and sacrificed himself over and over rather than take more lives. So it wasn't quite the same punch 'em up we've normally seen. She thought about it for a minute and then I saw the light go off, and she said, "you're right!" After that she was more impressed.
There's a lot to like in the approach Scott took. ☺️😃
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Post by mllemass on Apr 18, 2017 15:18:58 GMT
I showed DS to a friend over the weekend. When I asked her if she liked it, she shrugged and said, "yeah, scenes and then fighting. It was okay. It was a typical Marvel movie." I then pointed out that DS only killed one man in the whole movie, for which he expressed regret. Also, instead of wrecking an entire city at the end, he actually turned that all around by reversing time so no one was hurt at the end and the city was rebuilt. Also also, he used his wits to beat Dormmamu and sacrificed himself over and over rather than take more lives. So it wasn't quite the same punch 'em up we've normally seen. She thought about it for a minute and then I saw the light go off, and she said, "you're right!" After that she was more impressed. There's a lot to like in the approach Scott took. ☺️😃 I think I posted the same thing a while back - a friend of mine thought it was just ok until I pointed out everything you said. I also added that it featured strong female characters with Tilda Swinton and Rachel McAdams. Then my friend agreed with me that it was better than the other superhero movies she'd seen.
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Post by miriel68 on Apr 19, 2017 20:02:12 GMT
I wasn't a great fan of dr Strange when I first heard of it, but I changed my mind once I've seen the film. Not only was Benedict splendid in it (as usual), but the film as a whole was perfect in its genre, IMO. I liked STiD a lot and Benedict as Khan was simply superb, so I may agree with roverup that it ranks even higher in my personal ranking, but the last 1/2 of STiD went down the hill and in any case there was not enough Benedict in it!
But I am glad B. seems to have only cameo roles in Thor and Infinity Wars. The last Avengers were boooooooring and the trailer for Thor looks like a rollercoaster of silliness to me.
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Post by dreamsincolour on Apr 19, 2017 21:01:40 GMT
But I am glad B. seems to have only cameo roles in Thor and Infinity Wars. The last Avengers were boooooooring and the trailer for Thor looks like a rollercoaster of silliness to me. I thought the Thor trailer looked quite promising. I don't mind a bit of silly, and it didn't look that silly to me anyway. I've always liked the imaginative and fantastical, and the last Avengers wasn't that bad either. And while I also think Dr Strange will indeed only have a cameo in the new Thor film, I still wouldn't bet on that being the case re The infinity Wars films, even if he hasn't done any filming for them himself yet. We know there's a stand in covering for him re anything they can do without him in person, and unless Feige and the Russo brothers got so fed up with having to work around him that they've reworked the story (RDJ possibly replacing re elements that Strange was intended for), Strange was pivotal to the story from the comics. And he shouldn't be anything like just a cameo. He should be a major player.
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