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Post by queenzod on Jun 1, 2022 20:12:49 GMT
Johnny won! I’m absolutely thrilled.
He won 3 out of 3 of his defamation charges and was awarded $15 million (including punitive). She won 1 out of three defamation charges and was awarded $2 million. I’m pretty sure she doesn’t have $13 million to pay him.
Edit: Need to correct this info. Virginia caps punitive settlements at $350k, so the $5 mil awarded him for punitive damages has been reduced. His net award is 8.35 million (not like he’ll see a dime of it).
This seems like a fair judgment. He was the more aggrieved party, and yet he slung some poo also, and got taken to task for it. That whole thing was a marriage that never should have happened, and if AH hadn’t been such a psycho they could have split up amicably and went their own ways. Ah, well.
But it was a clear win for Johnny, unanimous, across the board.
Now, I’m already hearing from pundits that he only won because he has more money, fame, and clout than she has, and that this is a HUGE setback for the Me Too movement and that domestic abuse victims won’t be able to ever have another day in court again and be believed, etc., which is a load of bull pucky, imo. Maybe he won because he *proved* she lied about him and with malice? But that doesn’t fit the narrative.
I’m sure he’s happy, and he got what he wanted.
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Post by mllemass on Jun 1, 2022 21:07:17 GMT
I hope he has learned his lesson about marrying someone so much younger than he is. Why else would she marry someone old enough to be her father, if not for his money?
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Post by MagdaFR on Jun 1, 2022 21:10:46 GMT
I can't understand you rooting for him on this kind of level. I didn't follow any of this but you can't say that they had the same chances since the start. You don't know them, perhaps AH also abuse him but it was already ruled that he abused her. He's not innocent.
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Post by queenzod on Jun 1, 2022 21:46:39 GMT
My understanding of those allegations is they have been disproven. Those were lies AH made up. She’s a perjurer.
I have no doubt that there was some bad behavior on his part, but I do not believe he ever struck her. He breaks things, smashes bottles, slams cabinets, etc., when he’s angry. He does not hit women. Every single one of his exes have said that he is a gentle person and that he never abused them. He was the victim in this case, she defamed him (with malice), and he lost work because of it.
The lone charge against him which the jury found true was a statement not even made by him!
So, yes, I support him 100%. I think AH is a lying, abusive narcissist who perjured herself in court.
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Post by sorcerersupreme on Jun 1, 2022 22:14:05 GMT
They both seem crazy to me. But I'm kinda glad Amber was found guilty as well. They were both very toxic it seems and the recording of Amber openly admitting he abused and assaulted Depp and also admitted to plotting was very much in line for an abuser. I also watched footage of Depp being very angry, slamming kitchen doors etc. so it's hard for me to root for anyone in this case. I'm also very disappointed with Paul Bettany. He seems crazy as well.
The most disappointing part about this is reading comments like ''finally a win for white, straight males''.
Sexist, homophobic, transphobic, racist, ignorant all in one.
It's fair to say life is not easy even for a white, straight male. But it's 100% easier compared to anyone else.
They would quickly change their tune if they had to live life as a minority.
All in all I'm glad it's over with. Was fed up of seeing this 24/7 for weeks on my feed.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 1, 2022 23:14:00 GMT
Agreed that they both seem crazy and if I understood it right, they BOTH were found "guilty" but she was castigated harder. I remember that during the UK trial, a Depp's witness that claimed he never saw him abusing her was exposed as a liar when some personal messages were exhibed: he was explaining to an amnesiac Depp that he saw him beating her while he was stoned and that he should apologize to her. I think that and other incidents made him to lost the UK case because it was clear The Sun was right: he was a wife beater. Was she also violent and nasty? Very probably! But that wasn't in discussion.
Now it's surprising he lost in the UK and "won" in the USA where it is more difficult because free speech is more important in the USA but, apart of him being more charismatic to jurors, maybe it was because this time it was about her being a domestic violence survivor which she kind of is but also, there is proof that she was also abusive. Again, they were just a very toxic relationship!
It's not something black or white and that's the problem with some Me Too accusations. Activists should consider that the world is complex because if not, it indeed could affect their cause.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 1, 2022 23:19:52 GMT
Yep, they both were found liars! www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/johnny-depp-amber-heard-lawsuit-jury-verdict/EDITED Also some ex-girlfriends defended him but Ellen Barkin testified he was a violent man. I didn't followed the trial but I think a few people claimed they both were abusive with each other. Again, a very awful and nasty relationship that shouldn't had been used for political activism. Another thing that probably helped him is that he indeed lost jobs because her public accusations and that could be an issue for the Me Too movement because men are automatically fire and in the USA defamation is always about losing money (you can be very clearly defamed but if you didn't lost one cent then you would lost the case, especially if you are famous and rich). She maybe was indeed kind of abused but the relationship was more complex than what she described on her article and she was also abusive. He lost money for her simplifying their relationship so he won more than her. |
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Post by queenzod on Jun 1, 2022 23:55:07 GMT
He did not utter the statement that the jury ruled was defamation. Therefore the jury found he did not lie.
It makes me sad that y’all think he is still an abuser when he just proved in court (and won) that he is not. He was the victim of her physical and psychological abuse.
I actually think this expands the Me Too movement. Lots of people are saying white man wins, but men can be abused, too. It’s important that they be able to speak about what happens to them, too.
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Post by onebluestocking on Jun 2, 2022 4:14:52 GMT
They are just toxic together. She pooped on his bed. He wrote with blood on the wall. Two people with issues who needed stable partners, not each other. The expert who counseled them said they abused each other, and that's how it looked to me. They both told implausible versions of stories, like how his fingertip was severed. She said it happened when he broke his phone on the wall, and he said it happened when she threw a bottle at him. Neither of those things should sever a finger!
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Post by queenzod on Jun 2, 2022 6:46:03 GMT
She’s under investigation in Australia for perjury, and she might be here, too. Time will tell, I guess. 👍🏼
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