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Post by sgev1977 on Nov 3, 2021 16:42:10 GMT
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Post by queenzod on Nov 3, 2021 18:32:32 GMT
I just know the scene of him crying on the floor just flat out horribly miserable is going to get me. I remember crying that hard when my mother died. It was awful and my face hurt. I thought my eyeballs might fall out. Just want to give you a virtual hug for this one. I've been there when loved ones have passed, on the floor crying so hard I couldn't breathe; that feeling swallows you whole. *hug* >Aw, thanks! And the same hug back to you! 🤗 It was many years ago now the strong hurt has passed, but I think that’s something everyone can relate to, your whole world being shaken on its foundations like that. Pretty much sums up my feelings exactly! Partly excited to finally watch, partly terrified it'll rip me apart. I ordered a new box of Kleenex just for this, lol. The crying scenes you see in the trailer are edited in a particular way and they’re not quite what you think. These cryptic posts! LOL! I can't wait to finally figure it all out! Ha ha! Mllemass you are such a tease! 😂
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Post by sgev1977 on Nov 5, 2021 16:04:44 GMT
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Post by queenzod on Nov 5, 2021 16:27:47 GMT
That is the most Ben thing I have witnessed today. Perfect!
However, I am going to disagree a tiny bit with this notion that LW was an outsider artist. He held a paying job for his work which takes him outside the outsider label. Yes, he skirts it a bit because of his strong dedication to one form of art (cat paintings) and his mental health issues, but not so much, I think, for him to be labeled thusly.
Most “true” outsider artists pick up their craft (often at an older age), because they receive a calling from god or an angel telling them to make something in particular (like stars out of leaves or towers out of rocks or whatever) and then they make that thing exclusively for the rest of their lives. They’re not trained as LW was. It’s like a compulsion for them. Many don’t have the artistic materials and some cobbled together paper from wrapping paper or toilet paper rolls. The guy who made Salvation Mountain bummed paint off of friends. Henry Darger wrote and illustrated a million word novel at night in his tiny flat, working as a school custodian during the day. Often, too, they make their art in secret, don’t sell it, and just stack it up outside their barn or wherever until a picker from a NY art gallery shows up and tries to buy the whole lot for $100 before turning around and selling each piece for $5,000.
It’s trendy these days to affix an Outsider label to artists who are mentally ill but there’s a lot more involved than that. They’re not usually in it for the art-ness of it, they’re just making their thing the way god or their own compulsions told them to, for their own edification.
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Post by gingerale on Nov 5, 2021 16:41:38 GMT
Well pointed out. I love that you brought up Henry Darger - his work entrances me.
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Post by queenzod on Nov 5, 2021 17:06:04 GMT
I’m fascinated by Henry Darger. He used to keep lengths of string and then had problems with it, according to his diary. When I’m having a trying day I often say “wrestled with the string again today,” as a means of acknowledging my upset. 😂
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Post by sgev1977 on Nov 5, 2021 18:03:16 GMT
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Post by mllemass on Nov 5, 2021 18:08:53 GMT
I think “outsider” refers to Louis being an illustrator rather than making art to hang in galleries. He did what he had to do to support his family. His talents became more appreciated when his publisher replaced his illustrations with photographs. The photographs were more accurate, but they weren’t fun and whimsical like Louis’s cats.
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Post by mllemass on Nov 6, 2021 0:47:18 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Nov 6, 2021 0:54:28 GMT
This tweet made me laugh,
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