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Post by onebluestocking on Jan 14, 2021 20:25:48 GMT
Actual abuse is a different story! Now I'm wasting time reading about this actor I couldn't even remember  and this quote sums it up for me: I can now see why films want to step away from him.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 14, 2021 20:32:30 GMT
I don't know if they are famous but I know his family is very rich. He is frequently "criticized" because it. I think that's unfair but criticize him for being abusive is another thing.
Agreed that he is kind of generic, tho. He is very handsome but not charismatic. Hollywood and social media frequently mix up those two things.
EDITED It seems his grandfather was a very known American business man with a lot of political relationships.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 14, 2021 21:03:13 GMT
I saw some fans worried for CBYN sequel on Twitter! I doubt Guadagnino would "cancel" Hammer. He is not that kind of person. He is European! 😉 Also it seems he was somehow involved! But I totally can see Chalamet abandoning the project. Just remember what happened with his Woody Allen's film?! In his bio, Allen tells how Chalamet told his sister that it wasn't anything personal but he was told it was the best thing to do because his Oscar campaign!
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Post by MagdaFR on Jan 15, 2021 23:14:03 GMT
Actual abuse is a different story! Now I'm wasting time reading about this actor I couldn't even remember  and this quote sums it up for me: I can now see why films want to step away from him. Yes, it's getting more and more creepy. The incredible thing is that many of his fans and Charmies are somehow defending him because 'mental health'. Some of them who were BC fans now hate BC for marrying and don't care if he's a possible rapist. Just learned he had a second instagram separated from his family one. And read an interview with one of his exes. I had only seen comments from another of them in the same sense.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 15, 2021 23:55:39 GMT
Marrying a woman and having an stable marriage: not cool. Surely Harvey Weinstein is behind that awful crime!; Being involved in sadomasochistic bizarre relationships with very naive young girls? No problem!
EDITED By the way, I hope everyone involve, including him, receives some mental helth help and if there is a crime behind this that they could achieve some legal justice but yeah, BC and his fans are the sane here!
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Post by queenzod on Jan 16, 2021 8:37:45 GMT
A man losing physical affection for his wife once she gives birth is a (common) problem. Maybe not *common* but it happens. I don’t mind consensual kink among adults, but that problem with his wife is the thing he needs to address.
Well, maybe not anymore since they’re divorced or separated, but he also shouldn’t use his kids as an excuse when he’s been separated from them for months, too. He’s got a number of toxic male problems, hasn’t he?
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 16, 2021 11:13:43 GMT
TBH I'm still confused with all this! Very bizarre story!
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Post by queenzod on Jan 16, 2021 14:42:11 GMT
Lol I’m confused, too, sgev! 😂
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Post by sgev1977 on Feb 4, 2023 20:51:09 GMT
This is an interesting “gossip” article that not just interviewed him but also reviews the accusations (something that, as they said,no journalist dared to do during the scandal even when it’s their job!). I think AR’ sexual proclivities would had ended his career ten or 20 years ago, too but the whole story as presented by the media and “victims” was very over the top (cannibalism? Evil ADN? And apparently also murdering of unknown little girls?) to be believable. Except during Satanic panic times, of course!
Again, he is far away of being a saint and he admits it but it’s kind of worrying that the media just loses rational faculties when presented with a “right” cause and/or a furious Internet mob.
Also, it’s amazing the number of people who refuse to read the article fearing, I guess, it makes them to change of opinion!
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Post by sgev1977 on Feb 4, 2023 22:00:04 GMT
There is a probably very random part in the article about him trying to get a job as a property salesman after realizing his career as actor was over and even when he comes from a very rich family being not just broken but indebted just to be exposed and humiliated by TMZ. It reminds me to another, I guess, kinda canceled person but, in her case, she was in the complete opposite side of these kind of things. She was a Washington Post journalist and she was an accuser of another journalist. It was an ambiguous accusation, there was also an article about him with his point of view and they weren’t not just drunk but she drove him on her motorcycle and followed him to his room after he allegedly assaulted her a first time during their way there. Again, it’s impossible to know what happened but it was an ambiguous situation (also she wasn’t the first person to accused him, there was another woman in a similar ambiguous situation and just after reading that the journalist realized his still friend had abused her, too). Anyway, he was totally canceled. He didn’t “returned” after that slightly more friendly piece at all but she didn’t do much better, neither! She just totally embraced her activist and victim persona on social media. She first celebrated Kobe Bryan death on Twitter when the news was still in process and don’t get me wrong, she wasn’t lying: contrary to others, he went to trial and he admitted that he indeed raped the accuser. I as a lot of her co-workers, totally would had defended her of saying the truth on Twitter but I also think it wasn’t a very smart move because a)it was too soon for fans to proceed his death and his crime at the same time and b) he was dead so she wasn’t hurting him at all but she was hurting a family that lost not just a criminal father but also a young daughter. I just don’t understand how creating that social media storm could had helped her cause. The best option would had been IMHO to wait some time and writing something objectivity about society hypocrisy about celebrities.
Anyway, after that WP just banned her of writing about sexual abuse and she sued her own newspaper. She went to trial and lost because the judge considered she wasn’t very objective about the issue because she was a victim herself and the newspaper was right about worrying about objectivity because that’s important for good journalism. She still had some defenders between her co-workers but later, she just began attacking not just the work environment (it’s The Washington Post! They are actually hyper woke but she thought they were really bad!) but also co-workers. A friend of her who had defended her before during her scandals retweeted or liked a stupid joke (“All women are bi, you just have to determine if it’s sexual or polar”). She went ballistic against him. She was on her right of being offended but maybe the best reaction would had been to personally talking with him and explaining him why she was so offended. She didn’t do that! He exposed him on Twitter and claimed he was an example of everything that it was wrong with men and the toxic environment in their newspaper even when he was her friend he deserved to be exposed like that by her. He quickly apologized and deleted or disliked the joke (remember, it was someone else joke! I sometimes “like” by accident!) and, later, the Washington Post suspended him. It wasn’t enough, she just continued her diatribe until another male co-worker confronted her so she escalated things (with the help of a Twitter mob, of course! And another mob attacking her!) then she was confronted by a female co-worked and things escalated even more! By then, it was a horrible battle in which internal affairs of the newspaper were being exposed to everyone to see! At the end, she was fired. And TBH, even when her cause (stopping misogyny and abuse against women) was good, she totally deserved it because she was now a huge problem for her employer and co-workers. She was a toxic employee and frankly not very good in her job.
Last week, I saw that a right wing newspaper was making fun of her because, like AH, she was now working in another much humble kind of job (I think as a department store seller) and like AH, I wondered what they wanted? She, like everyone else, need a job. She wasn’t very smart as journalist and gained a lot of enemies but why just not let her live her life in anonymity now that she’s isn’t in the media anymore! But also, what we have achieve with this kind of “activism” if both “victims” and “criminals” are just humiliated and destroyed to the point of not could to build a new life (I am obviously talking about “crimes” trialed and judged only on social media. People who are convicted should be in jail)
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