Armie Hammer

I saw a tweet by someone who clearly hasn’t read the piece claiming there were “credible” evidence that he committed rape, murder, cannibalism and other things and then people saying “wow, he should be in jail!” They just don’t stop to think that if that was the case then why he isn’t in jail. To the very few people who said this, the OP answered with an article saying that a police officer said they were investigating him! Well, he still isn’t in jail, doesn’t? nor on trial and apparently the accuser doesn’t want to cooperate with the investigation and her famous feminist lawyer who organized the infamous press conference discretely abandoned her client some time ago. But they refuse to read the piece so they neither would see the screencaps of her messages to friends admitting she wasn’t raped and the complete conversation with AR in which she clearly is also role playing with him their crazy fantasies. Or what about the apparently very credible proof that she followed him around the world, even appearing behind him on a public video during a premiere in Europe or she happily talking on social media about her meeting with Luca Guadagnino, all this AFTER he allegedly raped her and sometimes with him trying to avoid her. And the stories about him maniacally raping young girls (more than 100!), making them disappear, “stucking objects” on males, committing murder, fantasizing with killing his own kids and being investigated by the FBI that she and his wife told to investigators were very 1980s Satanic Panic hysteria!

Of course, the most disturbing part is the allegedly existing messages of the wife and the accuser conspiring to hurting his reputation so she could get the complete custody of their kids (she didn’t got it because the authorities concluded that he wasn’t a dangerous man as her and the other woman claimed). I admit it sounds a little like a misogynistic fantasy but the journalist is claiming he saw those messages and he interviewed the friend who helped her to distribute fake gossips about him to the media letting her using her private e-Mail but who later regretted it when she considered it was pure revanchism and not her friend trying to survive to a bad marriage.

Then there is the girl who asked for money on Internet after claiming she was also raped by him but now admits she never met him but she know that he totally would had raped her if she had did so she didn’t do anything bad when asked for money! C’mon! And the Colombian guy who apparently also was violently raped by him because he told him that men could endure more violence than women (AH says he also doesn’t know him and he has never had sex with men)

The two other women, who he actually met and had sex with, are probably the more “credible” victims and only if you consider the modern concept that adult women could be groomed like abused kids. He admits that it was an imbalance of power and that they were younger than him and infatuated with him and it was him who introduced them to the BDSM fantasies and not the other way as with the main girl, Still, there are other screencaps of them playing alongside him those fantasies.

Now everything could be a lie! Why not? We don’t know for sure! Maybe it’s a huge lie that he is broken after all, he is indeed from an extremely rich family. Maybe he is this very powerful psychopath who can control authorities to gave him share custody instead of completely losing it as his wife wanted. And someone capable of block up a criminal investigation against him for some horrible and multiple crimes of rape and murder! Maybe the screen captures are fakes and the journalist is on his payroll but it would help a lot if those people who believe this first would read the piece and then being capable of showing proof that the statement presented by the journalist are just garbage. Also, it would had helped if the original pieces about the scandal were strongly documentated and not just being recycled stuff from social media!

He claims the rape scene she narrated actually existed but was detailed planned by both of them as a fantasy. He said she introduced him to those kind of played fantasies and that the conversation was recorded on social media but that he erased it and that his lawyers are still trying to recover it and that if he still have the messages, he would immediately ending the speculation. Well, I really doubt it! People already decided he is a sick criminal and they won’t never change their minds! They would probably refuse to even see the material!

The prosecution decided to retire the charges because they can’t proof beyond reasonable doubt that he raped her,



I have seen a few tweets saying he got away with it because he is rich but, apart that today a very prominent Scientology actor defended by the church itself was declared guilty of rape by the same legal system, the whole resolution kinda seems to confirm the article about him.

This whole affair sounded bonkers since the beginning: they were literally saying he was a cannibal and the girl carefully posted only his comments! Also, I remember that ridiculous pre-scandal article about him based on out of context quotes in old magazines in which he was being already considered a monster only because he was rich. The author actually celebrated when she “confirmed” he was an evil man because “she always knew it”. I remember that Janet Maslin “congratulated” her for her wonderful gut but then questioned her about the integrity or objectivity of writing something like that based only of her “feelings” toward him. He is an idiot and, yes, a pervert! But the accusations sounded very weak since the beginning and the resentment against him beforehand by some pathetic segments of the press only made the complex and it seems unfair case worse. They were biased against him and ready to believe not just that he was a fetichist but that he was a brutal criminal only based on innuendo and silly “proofs”

I don’t think he could make a comeback, tho. His is a sexual scandal and I don’t think audiences will forgive that. Maybe they could forgive other crimes by other major figures but he isn’t that popular or beloved and his case is very salacious. We will see! I personally have never being a fan of his but it’s interesting how this very twisted but unbelievable case was very easily believed by those who already “knew” he was the evil incarnated.

It's so difficult with these things. I always tend to side with the alleged victim because: 1) I've known men who will SA and not feel anything is wrong with it and, 2) I cannot imagine any person making up such serious claims! How could you lie about something so serious and ruin someone's life with false accusations?
I'm finally learning that people can and will bend the truth to make sensational claims, and somehow they justify it to themselves.
We'll never know what is actually the truth here. I hope everyone has healing, because certainly, everyone involved (Armie, alleged victims, and their respective families) has been put through it since the story broke and the public went nuts.

Wow, Sgev! You're kind of blowing my mind. There are so many details I was unaware of!

I stumbled onto this stuff when it was blowing up, and though the cannibalism was obviously a wild claim that didn't hold up, I did think he might have assaulted and raped the victims because of the fact that multiple women described him the same way (which reminded me of how Weinstein's victims all described him the same way). I stopped following the story after the initial shock because I found the discourse around it really disturbing. People were sharing their personal stories of abuse and I couldn't stomach it, tbh. It's jarring to see a whole bunch of people detail their assaults and it made me stressed and depressed.

I came away with no real informed opinion, but I did believe there was evidence against him and the police would investigate, which would then correct the narrative if it was wrong, or confirm it if it was right. How wrong that conclusion was, because it seems people are now fuming about the charges being dropped! The facts don't matter, the public have decided he is guilty already. I think because we also have so many actual abusers (Danny, Nick Carter, Jared Leto)* that it's easy to think Armie might have been another one.
*Only the first of those confirmed, but the other two are being accused of rape of minors, if I'm not mistaken.

Now that you explained his wife was conspiring with the accusers...ugh I feel sick. The idea that people could fabricate this kind of thing, without ever stopping to think how awful what they're doing is, and how they're going to completely destroy someone's career, life, reputation, everything...it's just unbelievable. Whatever happened to personal principles and decency?

You're (always) right about social media frenzies and the press not investigating properly before reporting. They are being blatantly biased because crazy headlines get the most clicks and that's their primary concern these days. I always appreciate that you remind us of those elements because I, for one, am so used to this now that I don't notice when social media and the tabloid press is controlling the narrative and contorting the facts!
I have fallen for that trap so many times myself (including just this past week with the Schofield scandal), because I always seem to believe if the mainstream press are reporting it, then there must be credible evidence behind the story- after all, why would they risk their journalistic integrity?
I suppose I'm thinking of journalism as what it used to be, not what it is in this day and age, which evidently is all tabloid fodder, very little integrity, respect or even accountability in some cases.

It really is worrying to think how much power the court of public opinion has these days and how easily the facts are buried.