Post by sgev1977 on Jun 15, 2021 1:58:46 GMT
I was thinking about two productions about relatively recent bloody events and the reactions about their announcement but I wanted to be positive so I made the thread about the title with the positive reaction. Also it probably would be the only one that will happen!
Anyway the other one is this one,
www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/125426510/family-of-christchurch-mosque-attack-victim-writes-open-letter-to-hollywood-actress-rose-byrne-to-refuse-her-role
I think families have the right to protest and feeling offended by the production but the letter mentioned at the end is factually wrong. I mean I read the whole version and it’s heartbreaking and very touching but, again, factually wrong. James Cameron’s Titanic wasn’t the first Titanic movie. The first one, according to Wikipedia, was called Saved from Titanic and was released 29 days after the sinking. That same year, two other films were released. And about 9/11, it’s a huge lie that the first movie was released 16 years after the attack. Again, I understand the fury against the project and I think they have the right to protest it but 9/11 is so recent (at least for someone of my age) that I can’t understand why they are lying like that. I mean yes, there were some extreme cultural reaction in the USA (Freedom Fries? Dixie Chicks?) but the first big two mainstream films about 9/11 were released barely 5 years after the event (World Trade Center and United 93) and there were a bunch of other movies before them. The first American one that touched the theme was Spike Lee’s 25th Hour, released only one year after the attack. Lee was doing the movie when the attacks happened so he decided to included them in the film. The movie was acclaimed and I don’t remember any negative reaction. Also in 2012, it was released 11'09"01 at Venice Film Festival. It was a series of short films from various acclaimed filmmakers from around the world about the attacks. Some of them were actually very critical to USA foreign policies and, the most famous one, the Alejandro González Iñárritu one is extremely painful to watch mainly because the climax is a very poetic shot of the bodies falling from the tower. I wonder how this film would be received today!
They say a movie shouldn’t be made until at least 10 years after the event and that’s the case about Somos (the trailer, youtu.be/6HTS2apdLH0 ) but TBH it feels like less time maybe because the families of the victims were mostly silenced until very recently. And that’s the paradox to me: the war on drugs was something very catastrophic for this country and in some places people just couldn’t talk about their tragedies because if they do, they could had been killed. I live in a big city that was strongly affected by the violence but it’s so big that you could be oblivious of some horrible event if you didn’t read the papers (the problem was when it happened near to you and surely something happened near to everyone at least once!) but also horrible things were frequently widely reported by the press (not all of them but most of them). In little towns and small cities, things were different: drug traffickers could kill hundreds of people and destroy the whole town with no one reporting it from years like it happened in Allende, Coahuila. There are tens of thousands disappeared people since then and the reaction is mostly silence.
So that’s the difference. Some people are desperate to talk about their tragedies because they just need the world to know it meanwhile others seems to just prefer silence.
I don’t know. I don’t have the answer and I respect reactions from people directly affected by tragedies but I have always admired how Jewish people always fight for the Holocaust not being forgotten and they didn’t seem to care too much when the tale is tell through the eyes of someone outside the community. But again, the families have the right to protest and undoubtedly it was a huge mistake if the producers didn’t talked with them beforehand. I just know that from my very particular point of view, fictional stories about tragedies are important because silence and obscurity is the worst and they helps the criminals. I really can’t wait for the series and I don’t know how direct families will react. Until now, I haven’t seen anything negative. There are a few people worried that it glorifies narcos (like they believe other Netflix series do) but they are just randoms not family members and they just didn’t seem to know about the massacre (again it was totally erased until a few years ago). I certainly will report the reaction to it. It’s just fascinating to see the difference between how people see things in Anglo Saxon countries and places like here.
Anyway the other one is this one,
www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/125426510/family-of-christchurch-mosque-attack-victim-writes-open-letter-to-hollywood-actress-rose-byrne-to-refuse-her-role
I think families have the right to protest and feeling offended by the production but the letter mentioned at the end is factually wrong. I mean I read the whole version and it’s heartbreaking and very touching but, again, factually wrong. James Cameron’s Titanic wasn’t the first Titanic movie. The first one, according to Wikipedia, was called Saved from Titanic and was released 29 days after the sinking. That same year, two other films were released. And about 9/11, it’s a huge lie that the first movie was released 16 years after the attack. Again, I understand the fury against the project and I think they have the right to protest it but 9/11 is so recent (at least for someone of my age) that I can’t understand why they are lying like that. I mean yes, there were some extreme cultural reaction in the USA (Freedom Fries? Dixie Chicks?) but the first big two mainstream films about 9/11 were released barely 5 years after the event (World Trade Center and United 93) and there were a bunch of other movies before them. The first American one that touched the theme was Spike Lee’s 25th Hour, released only one year after the attack. Lee was doing the movie when the attacks happened so he decided to included them in the film. The movie was acclaimed and I don’t remember any negative reaction. Also in 2012, it was released 11'09"01 at Venice Film Festival. It was a series of short films from various acclaimed filmmakers from around the world about the attacks. Some of them were actually very critical to USA foreign policies and, the most famous one, the Alejandro González Iñárritu one is extremely painful to watch mainly because the climax is a very poetic shot of the bodies falling from the tower. I wonder how this film would be received today!
They say a movie shouldn’t be made until at least 10 years after the event and that’s the case about Somos (the trailer, youtu.be/6HTS2apdLH0 ) but TBH it feels like less time maybe because the families of the victims were mostly silenced until very recently. And that’s the paradox to me: the war on drugs was something very catastrophic for this country and in some places people just couldn’t talk about their tragedies because if they do, they could had been killed. I live in a big city that was strongly affected by the violence but it’s so big that you could be oblivious of some horrible event if you didn’t read the papers (the problem was when it happened near to you and surely something happened near to everyone at least once!) but also horrible things were frequently widely reported by the press (not all of them but most of them). In little towns and small cities, things were different: drug traffickers could kill hundreds of people and destroy the whole town with no one reporting it from years like it happened in Allende, Coahuila. There are tens of thousands disappeared people since then and the reaction is mostly silence.
So that’s the difference. Some people are desperate to talk about their tragedies because they just need the world to know it meanwhile others seems to just prefer silence.
I don’t know. I don’t have the answer and I respect reactions from people directly affected by tragedies but I have always admired how Jewish people always fight for the Holocaust not being forgotten and they didn’t seem to care too much when the tale is tell through the eyes of someone outside the community. But again, the families have the right to protest and undoubtedly it was a huge mistake if the producers didn’t talked with them beforehand. I just know that from my very particular point of view, fictional stories about tragedies are important because silence and obscurity is the worst and they helps the criminals. I really can’t wait for the series and I don’t know how direct families will react. Until now, I haven’t seen anything negative. There are a few people worried that it glorifies narcos (like they believe other Netflix series do) but they are just randoms not family members and they just didn’t seem to know about the massacre (again it was totally erased until a few years ago). I certainly will report the reaction to it. It’s just fascinating to see the difference between how people see things in Anglo Saxon countries and places like here.