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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 10, 2021 23:28:26 GMT
He is a Hollywood actor in the sense that he does Hollywood movies but yeah, he is mostly a proper actor. Now, it’s kind of incredible and probably a reaction to an inferiority complex, but there is certain contempt towards proper actors in film culture but the truth is that he can survive as an actor without doing movies meanwhile a lot of “acclaimed” movies/Hollywood actors can’t. Or in other words, he can do movies but a lot of movie actors, including some acclaimed ones, can’t do theatre or radio or voice work in general and certainly, most of them would never achieve enough respect between their peers to be named president of the oldest and most respected acting school in the UK as he did by his early 40s! Why would he care for a silly American award?
I mean the first time he went to an Oscar event, he straightforwardly told the journalist that he was there because his agent told him and didn’t agreed that it was a dream come true to be there. He said he dreamed with being an actor, not with winning awards or being at the Oscars.
But yeah, a lot of fake rumors, paranoia and fabrication. I mean remember when The Daily Mail readers were convinced that he lived in an ugly pink ranch in California! And the there is the award pundits fearing he would win the award instead of their fave so it surely was campaigning harder than their fave; and then there are the deluded girls thinking the only reason he would get married with anyone except them is because he really wanted an Oscars!
EDITED I would say that award pundits, journalists and critics who accuse actors to be obsessed with winning Oscars are also mostly projecting. They are so obsessed with the award that they think everyone is like them.
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Post by queenzod on Aug 10, 2021 23:45:22 GMT
Good points, sgev. I’d forgotten about that horrible Hollywood mansion, lol! But I still wouldn’t classify him as a “Hollywood” actor. Not really. 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 11, 2021 23:11:32 GMT
Today it was announced that Lim Manuel Miranda’s Tick Tick..Boom will open AFI festival. According to film gossip sites this film is Netflix’s biggest Oscar prospect this year because, according to them, it had a phenomenal reception during screening tests. They were waiting for a strong presence in the fall festivals or at least in the two with “more accessible” films: Telluride and Toronto. It clearly won’t be in any of them so now I read a few tweets by award pundits declaring it means it’s a failed movie! (AFI doesn’t have the best reputation for good “word premiere” Oscar films). Neither of them have watched the film yet!
Actually, Pete Hammond from Deadline says in his report that a few festivals really wanted it (including NYFF) but that the film isn’t finished yet so yeah, maybe it’s good! On the other hand, yeah, Netflix must have a huge faith on Lin Miranda and Andrew Garfield star power to begin an Oscar campaign so late in the game. That usually happens only with directors like Paul Thomas Anderson, Clint Eastwood, Steven Spielberg or actors like Leonardo DiCaprio; Or the movie is such a guaranteed crowd pleaser that it just don’t need festivals. Apart of those two cases, I would think that if it’s not finished yet then the smartest thing would had been to wait for next year and doing a proper campaign (if they really want awards, of course!)
Still, I found very silly and ridiculous how quickly they go from the hyping to the backlashing! And without watching the thing! Actually, it seems “the thing” isn’t even finished yet!
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 12, 2021 10:57:34 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 14, 2021 15:08:57 GMT
I saw a comment on Glod Derby claiming BC was everywhere campaigning for TIG! Again, that’s a lie! He was in the UK filming a miniseries called The Hollow Crown most of the time (it’s very easy to check the timeline). Only deluded BC’s fans who were angry that he got married and deluded Oscar fanboys who want to believe they faves are pure people who “accidentally” win awards meanwhile threatening rivals are hungry for them think he was everywhere believe he did everything to win that Oscar! He wasn’t at SAG, he wasn’t at the Academy luncheon and he openly talked about resisting Weinstein wishes for him doing stuff (“I didn’t kissed every baby I was told to”, his exact words! and in an early interview he claimed Weinstein was calling him angry at midnight trying to convince him to dedicate all his time to the campaign but that he won’t do it).
Sure, he wasn’t rude and behaved accordingly in the events and interviews he did and, yeah, he did some campaigning, mostly during weekends, something that should had been exhausting because he traveled from the UK to the USA and then returned for the series. And, yes, he was on Time magazine cover (a publication that at the time strongly used him as a clickbait tool, by the way. I don’t doubt Weinstein pushed for it but the magazine was already a clickbait publication by then and not the hyper respected publication it was in the past) I remember that at the time Scott Feinberg did an article about actors campaigning and he put BC in the same level that Michael Keaton. The ones who were half campaigning.
Now, there’s nothing bad with it. Good for Eddie Redmayne and good for Bong Joon-ho but apart of being very hypocritical to call one Eddiecarpet (or whatever they call him) and not the other one, in the case of BC is feeding a conspiracy theory by very sick individuals who dedicate their time to attack him and his family. So yeah, even frivolous lies about awards can be very irresponsible!
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Post by queenzod on Aug 14, 2021 15:59:49 GMT
My feeling is most people don’t pay any attention to this. They don’t know who’s campaigning and who isn’t. Most probably don’t even know who’s nominated until the day of the ceremony when they think “oh, Oscars are tonight, I should look and see who’s nominated.”
Like most people haven’t a clue the skeptics exist or there’s any controversy around him at all. They probably don’t even know if he’s married or has kids or anything. People make bubbles and live inside them and think it’s the whole world. 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 14, 2021 16:50:33 GMT
Yes, but the award pundits should hypothetically know but they still didn’t see it. They only knew it was Weinstein behind it so they concluded BC would hardly campaign and, even when he didn’t do it, they concluded he did and widely speak about it. Then some stupid gossip columnist claimed he was using his unborn child to win the award (a disgusting woman who later made fun of BC’s deluded fans who think he “fabricated” the existence of a child to try to win an award) and then you have a conspiracy theory!
By the way, I don’t think BC is a “purest than you” actor who would never campaign for awards. He even seems to understand the importance of awards for certain kind of awards more now that he is a producer than when he “half-campaigned” for TIG but the lie is still there and I think the consequences of that lie are just too ugly!
Still, I’m sure the crazies would have another excuse for hating Sophie Hunter and their kids if Weinstein and the Oscar didn’t existed!
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Post by mllemass on Aug 14, 2021 18:04:15 GMT
Was it for TIG that Benedict flew to NY (I think) to do an interview with some journalist who then gave the movie a terrible review? It made me furious that that guy used Benedict to get lots of viewers when he knew that he wouldn’t be recommending the movie.
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Post by MagdaFR on Aug 14, 2021 18:20:40 GMT
The thing is , sgev1977 that they campaign for their favourite and try to affect negatively their possible opponent. It's like you said about "Redcarpet" and Bong Joon-ho. The first one is a thirsty actor and the other almost a hero for doing exactly the same thing.
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 14, 2021 19:12:45 GMT
Was it for TIG that Benedict flew to NY (I think) to do an interview with some journalist who then gave the movie a terrible review? It made me furious that that guy used Benedict to get lots of viewers when he knew that he wouldn’t be recommending the movie. I don’t know who you are referring to but I’m sure in that case it was Weinstein and the Oscar campaign the elements that arranged the interview and it’s valid. The guy was in his right to hate the movie even if he interviewed him. But yeah, all the publicity he was doing during that period was during quick flights in the weekends because he was shooting a miniseries from Monday to Friday. And he wasn’t in the USA during ALL the weekends. Clearly, he and the other actors (I remember also a sarcastic comment by Charles Dance and even a NYT journalist said something along the line that she felt for them forced to be there with her) were pressured by Weinstein. But he also clearly wasn’t available or agreed to do the whole traditional Weinstein/Hollywood award campaign. He chose his daily job over the Oscars and just tried to satisfied until certain degree to his pushy ex-boss without altering too much his schedule so yeah, I hate people said otherwise and how that lie ended used by disturbed individuals to attack him and his family.
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