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Post by mllemass on Oct 1, 2021 15:17:42 GMT
It’s interesting because Manhattan Murder Mystery wasn’t even a unique idea when Woody Allen did it. He clearly meant to make an Alfred Hitchcock-style mystery, but starring goofy neurotic Woody Allen in place of Jimmy Stewart. It’s so good!
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Post by queenzod on Oct 1, 2021 15:47:09 GMT
I love MMM. The part that always cracks me up is the whisper shouting. And DK & WA always play so wonderfully together. Really a little gem of a movie. ❤️
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Post by sgev1977 on Oct 1, 2021 23:48:41 GMT
I’m not a big Woody Allen’s fan. I mean I enjoy a lot of his films but the first “serious” films I ever watched were American 1970s films and I guess it’s uncool to admit it in these woke times but I went for the macho stuff from Scorsese, Coppola and Lumet! I didn’t liked romantic comedies too much! Ironically, Allen was the one doing films about women sometimes from a female perspective. It doesn’t mean there weren’t sometimes some misogyny there but it didn’t compared to the others and he indeed wrote a lot of strong roles for actresses meanwhile the other guys didn’t.
Still, because the scandal I have read jut too much about him! At least, about the gossipy stuff! I’m not proud about it! Lol
Anyway, I mention this because I watched MMM many years ago when it was released and I remember it was good but the thing I immediately remember when it’s mentioned is that it was WA’s next film after his separation with Mia Farrow (without counting Husbands and Wives, a film they did during the conflict and their last together) and his producer but also the nanny on Farrow’s side (!!!) claimed she actually went to the set and acted as if nothing had happened and still were Allen’s leading lady even when she already had accused him of sexually abusing their daughter. They said Allen had to fire her and straightforwardly told her that Keaton was now doing the film.
I wish the HBO documentary would had directly refuted these kind of anecdotes/gossips or admitted them and showing Farrow as a flawed human being instead of obscured or plainly lied about anything that suggested that she was less of a saint. I sincerely thought it didn’t helped Dylan’s case but actually the opposite.
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Post by queenzod on Oct 2, 2021 2:50:27 GMT
I really try to separate filmmakers/artists work from their personal lives. It’s hard sometimes but if someone produces great art and is kind of a wanker irl I acknowledge that without letting it tint my perception of the artistic creation too much (I hope).
I love Frank Sinatra and he was kind of a misogynistic, bullying jerk at times but wow what a voice!
I do have a hard time watching Mel Gibson in anything anymore, but I was impressed by his work in The Professor and the Madman with Sean Penn. Mel’s a grade A arsehole on a personal level but an excellent, very intense actor.
Polanski made some brilliant films and was a pedophile who escaped justice by fleeing to Europe. My hating him for his pedophelia doesn’t change him or the movies he made. All I can do is be aware of these things when choosing to view his art.
Everyone is “problematic” to an extent and I don’t want to cancel anyone except criminal monsters like Harvey Weinstein. Do I stop watching The Imitation Game because he produced it?
We can’t possibly know what goes on in some households, and I haven’t a clue whether Woody Allen is really guilty of anything or not. The media jumps on board adding bias to get clicks or sell newspapers or whatever, muddying the waters further, which I find irresponsible and reprehensible given the sheer amount of mis/disinformation out there these days. Nuance is practically dead. It’s possible to acknowledge the ignorance, stupidity, criminality and/or cruelty of a person and keep that in mind while you’re appreciating some great art, but most folks want to throw the baby out with the bath water it seems. Okay, weird analogy but you get my drift. 😂
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Post by sgev1977 on Oct 5, 2021 22:28:57 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Oct 7, 2021 22:30:55 GMT
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Post by roverpup on Oct 8, 2021 11:12:06 GMT
For your consideration:
"What does freak flag mean in slang? For those who don't know what a "freak flag" is, I offer this definition from the Urban Dictionary: A characteristic, mannerism, or appearance of a person, either subtle or overt, which implies unique, eccentric, creative, adventurous or unconventional thinking."
I took it as a compliment for BC... "unique, eccentric, creative, adventurous, unconventional" - all really good things!
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Post by mllemass on Oct 8, 2021 11:44:31 GMT
I did think “fabulous freak flag” was meant to be a compliment, but I just disagree that he always plays eccentrics and oddballs. He’s just a good actor who gets bored easily and likes roles that take him away from himself.
I remember a popular tv actress saying in an interview that all the roles she’s had are pretty much her playing herself. That’s the kind of acting career she wanted - being pretty and popular and famous - so that’s what she did.
Benedict is the opposite. The role that’s probably the most like himself was in The Child in Time.
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Post by gingerale on Oct 13, 2021 11:59:09 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Oct 13, 2021 12:03:42 GMT
I was about to post the same two paragraphs! Lol
Also it’s a 5 stars out of 5 review. I think stars are silly but those were a lot of stars! 😉
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