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Post by sgev1977 on Dec 30, 2021 13:12:50 GMT
I just saw this tweet,
And the issue is: that was Tumblr (You don’t like my fave? Then “your fave is problematic”!), it’s now Twitter and it’s, in part, why we are living a ridiculous culture war during such dark times! It’s not even something new, invented by these guys but it’s not a surprise it began with an activist/journalist. The good thing is that I seriously suspect it’s dying now that it’s journalists vs. journalists and when it’s very obvious that it’s the privileged and powerful ones who are abusing of such a childish method of debate.
I haven’t read the comments but DiCaprio’s tweet isn’t bad like the others. He clearly did the movie for activism and now he is using it as an activist tool. Fair! The issue is accusing those who doesn’t enjoy it of being climate change denialists.
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Post by mllemass on Dec 30, 2021 13:32:57 GMT
I have no problem with the message or even the style. I think it’s the writing that makes it bad for me, and I would prefer to re-watch other better movies with the same message. Even The Planet of the Apes was way better and told pretty much the same thing!
It’s funny to me that even positive, glowing reviews seem to have missed that last scene in the credits, so you can’t even blame it on them being in a hurry to turn it off. Several have mentioned that the sad final scene around the dinner table was a perfect ending - except it wasn’t the end. It probably wouldn’t have changed their opinions, but still…
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Post by queenzod on Dec 30, 2021 14:09:07 GMT
I’m about halfway through it (got tired last night & went to bed) and it’s okay. I laugh-snorted a few times. Sure it’s way over the top and in places it’s like being hit by a sledgehammer but I’m enjoying it.
I guess the lesson is if you don’t want people complaining about your art, don’t be on Twitter lol.
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Post by roverpup on Dec 30, 2021 14:27:29 GMT
I look upon this movie in the light of Dr. Strangelove and I think it holds up fairly well. That's probably a sacrilege but nevertheless I think there is a comparison there.
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Post by sgev1977 on Dec 30, 2021 18:30:19 GMT
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Post by queenzod on Dec 30, 2021 19:22:08 GMT
There’s also a lot of folks out there pretending to be Bona fide critics when they’re actually just Uncle Joe down in the basement who has watched a ton of movies and thinks he knows everything. Unless they have a name everyone can recognize they’re going to get teased.
Also, it’s open season on Twitter for anyone trying to make legitimate points on a serious topic. Twitter is full of snark addicts and the game is to see who can score the most points. I feel for (some) of these folks but I would think you’d need to have a thick skin to play those games on Twitter.
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Post by sgev1977 on Dec 30, 2021 19:29:10 GMT
Indeed but it’s something very wrong when a major film director attacks his critics like that and yeah, accusing people you don’t like of being some kind of bigots or extremist is very common in social media and it’s plain wrong, no matter who does it.
This another tweet by Winter is also very nice,
Bill is very intelligent! Or was he Ted?!
EDITED
I also like this tweet:
There are indeed a lot of lousy critics out there but they are bad not because they are the so called “elite” but because they are uneducated. They barely have watched films and much less read or study films. I can respect an educated opinion which I don’t agree with but it’s very frustrating to read someone who clearly is more ignorant than me even if I agreed with them.
Still, that’s very different of what the Don’t Look Up people are doing!
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Post by Hannah Lee on Dec 30, 2021 19:35:10 GMT
I look upon this movie in the light of Dr. Strangelove and I think it holds up fairly well. That's probably a sacrilege but nevertheless I think there is a comparison there.
It's interesting that you mentioned Dr. Strangelove, because that's what it called to mind for me when I watched it last night. That and also, the TV series The Monkees. It had a frentic 60's vibe in many places, including the opening credit graphics.
The Monkees? you say? It made me think of when I was little, and my mother would not allow me to watch The Monkees reruns on tv. I would still sneak a peak when I could But years later, I asked her why she didn't want me to watch it "Have you ever seen it now that you're an adult?" she said. I hadn't, but did later watch a few episodes on youtube one time, and I understood why - it appeared everyone involved in making that show was on drugs for many many scenes. The camera movements and frenetic energy on screen, the "wacky" hijinks and people of authority acting outrageously. And that's what long stretches of DLU reminded me of.
I get what the filmmakers were trying to do. I agree with some of their messaging, and certainly, yes, climate change is bad and humanity's collective inability to address it is troubling and dangerous and a crisis. But DLU isn't a film to create a seismic shift in society; it was an okay film with some good parts and some missteps which kept it from landing as strongly as it could have.
The filmmakers climbing up on an Aaron Sorkin-eque soapbox to lecture their film's critics and claim that not admiring DLU is equivalent to being a climate change denier is ridiculous.
I did appreciate TC's performance, it was the first time I got him. And slices of JL's were good. LD's less so. The anxiety dialed up to 11 throughout, seemingly just to set up a couple of Xanax 'jokes' didn't work for me. And the spinning as Dr Mindy as some sexilicious dude powerful women can't help falling over rang wrong for me and seemed like an indulgent sidebar that slowed momentum in a really long movie I'm still mulling Rylance's ... haven't settled on what I think about it yet.
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Post by mllemass on Dec 30, 2021 19:54:09 GMT
How dare you talk about me that way! Ha!
Can you imagine Jane Campion or Will Sharpe popping up on Twitter to berate anyone who dislikes or misunderstands TPOTD or Louis Wain? I would be mortified!
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Post by sgev1977 on Dec 30, 2021 20:54:36 GMT
Oh, I’m glad BC isn’t on Twitter!
Both he and Campion have said they don’t read reviews. Campion said she knew TPOTD was receiving positive reviews because when that’s not the case studio people treat you different and she was being treated really well! Lol She said that she learned it in the hard way with Sweetie (a wonderful film!), she said she only could think in the negative comments even when there were a lot of positive ones.
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