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Post by ellie on Jan 28, 2023 14:00:48 GMT
The way the Oscars are going BC will never win because he’s too white and too “posh.” The fact that he’s arguably the most talented actor of his generation is irrelevant. It’s all got very silly.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 28, 2023 14:20:48 GMT
It’s a testament of his talent that he made it to the very curated BAFTA short list last year! Actually, that’s something I have said for years about the BAFTAs TV awards, they were more “diverse” oriented before the movie branch. They didn’t went necessarily for minorities but for working class actors and stories. Still when a minority actor won, I remember an actress celebrating that he won over BC, “someone who always wins these awards”, except that he hadn’t won it yet! He still has a record of nominations to it and won one for Patrick Melrose. Other actors of his generation like Tom Hiddleston or Tom Hardy have 0 nominations to both, TV or Film BAFTAS! Edddie Redmayne is the most popular with awards, tho.! And he is good but it’s still perplexing to me because obviously I think BC is better! He is nominated this year again! Lol Redmayne is very discreet, tho. and the British press seems to be very nice to him compared with BC! Probably because he doesn’t get into political stuff that offends to the right wing tabloids like BC campaigning for Syrian refugees!
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 28, 2023 14:35:22 GMT
A correction: Tom Hardy was nominated for Stuart: A Life Backwards. I remembered and checked Wikipedia to confirm it but funnier, it seems BC is the most nominated actor ever in the Best Actor category! Lol en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Academy_Television_Award_for_Best_ActorHe has another nomination for Best Supporting Actor for Small Island! And he is also tied with Laurence Oliver in a second place as most nominated actor for Best Actor in a limited series or movie in the Emmys! Only one win in both! They seriously take him for granted!
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Post by ellie on Jan 28, 2023 15:46:06 GMT
Eddie Redmayne keeps a very low profile and doesn’t seem to have either a very prominent fanbase or the nutty element of followers that poor BC has. I think he’s a decent actor. Not as good as BC though! BC will never be popular with the right wing media because of his politics but I say good on him for saying what he thinks and not caring what the bigots in the Daily Mail think.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 28, 2023 17:12:29 GMT
I think ER is very smart in his public relations. He like the other two “posh” boys seems to be a very nice guy but yeah, very low profile. Film Twitter hates him and he undoubtedly has been attacked by crazy Twitter activists (once because he criticized JK Rowling and, in another occasion, because he defended JK Rowling! Lol And, in the same theme, because he played a trans character) but outside the madness of social media, I doubt he has ever been attacked by the awful British press. He very rarely gets involve with controversial themes at least not intentionally like BC does with some political divisive causes (refugees but also some feminist causes and the anti-Brexit campaign) but also some projects (Brexit, again! Or TFE)
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 31, 2023 18:19:53 GMT
This is by Richard Dreyfus' son. He is a journalist but was kinda canceled although I don't remember why. Anyway, he is very outspoken and funny and he clearly has some internal knowledge about how the Oscars works and what happened behind AR's campaign,
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Post by MagdaFR on Jan 31, 2023 22:22:17 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Feb 1, 2023 0:00:22 GMT
I saw that, too! Twitter activists are, as always, just useful idiots for shadowy agents and causes. Ironically, that review of the rules will ending affecting independent voices which obviously include a lot of minorities that genuinely doesn’t have access to huge budgets.
Also, there is something really awful when an innocent person, it doesn’t matter who, is falsely accused of disgusting things like racism just because a frivolous and random things that aren’t even decided by them. AR didn’t organized that Oscar campaign. According to BD, it was the well meaning wife of the director asking to her famous friends to watch the film and, if they liked it, please promoting it on social media!
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Post by mllemass on Feb 1, 2023 1:10:21 GMT
The Ben Dreyfuss article is really good! He says what I’ve been thinking all along, but he says it much better than I ever could (that everyone “breaks” the rules to push for nominations, but some people are furious that AR managed to do it without spending millions on publicity).
And he says he got so curious about AR’s performance that he watched the movie, and says she was indeed amazing and deserves to win the Oscar.
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Post by sgev1977 on Feb 1, 2023 1:46:09 GMT
He directly blames publicists and TBH I am not sure it was necessary them or just them but it’s clear that people working for studios and/or celebrities weren’t happy with a humble but effective campaign like hers and it was probably them who asked for an investigation although the Academy in the past has unsuccessfully and idiotically trying to please Twitter mobs!
Dreyfuss is pretty controversial. He has a very dark sense of humor and Twitter isn’t know for understand humor! Much less dark one!. He probably won’t influence any of the protesters and he knows it, that’s why he doesn’t fear to call things by its name. Harris, on the other hand, is very cautious and he first mentions the “legitimate discussion” about “leveling the playing field” before talking about how wrong is what happened with AR. Harris is a film critic but also Tony Kushner‘s husband , the Angels in America playwright but also the usual scriptwriter of Steven Spielberg movies and an Oscar nominee.
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