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Post by dreamsincolour on May 13, 2017 23:42:04 GMT
I think that slight creepiness is to do with JG's eyes, because sometimes he's a bit cross-eyed. It's odd because it's not always so apparent, although it's always there a little bit. But then sometimes it's very marked.
And I agree re the wanting to see BC as the main protagonist. That facility doesn't last for very long, and he is going to be 41 soon, so I'd like to see him make the most of that potential while he can. That's what Sunnymarch is there to help with as well, of course, with the projects they'll develop. But I would like to see externally instigated projects too, like this "Rio", and ideally to see those be leads as well. What he'll actually end up choosing to do in practice, though, will probably depend on a combination of who he would like to try working with and the meat of the role itself (whether lead or not). We're all supposing now (I think) that he's going to be doing "Smiley's People" sometime next year (per Gary Oldman comment), and that's certainly not going to be as the lead. That's very centred on George Smiley. But there would be good reason to do that since it's pretty sure that an adaptation of the new novel will follow in due course in which Peter Guillam becomes the main protagonist instead. And for all Peter Guillam was only a very minor part of that 3rd Karla trilogy book, it makes absolute sense to suppose that the adaptation will be adjusted in the light of what is now known to be following.
Once upon a time, on IMDB, there seemed to be lots of comments criticising BC's "choices", which always seemed to come from a very poor basic understanding of the options that will have been otherwise available to him. It was as if he was supposed to have been able to pick his director and the project of choice and then done that, as if deciding that that was what he wanted to do was all that was required. Too daft, really! Not so much choice then, in truth, but he will have choices to make now! It will be interesting to see what actually comes to fruition.
And Sgev said:
You are absolutely right to think that the script may not be conventional. I might be supposing that JG is going to be the "lead", but I know that's blind presumption, and am also supposing that there will be good reason for the director to be choosing this as his next project when he won't be short of choices. And Steven Knight isn't the most conventional of writers either.
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Post by mllemass on May 13, 2017 23:45:19 GMT
I think it's one of the best movies ever made, but it's not an easy movie to watch. It stays with me for weeks after I've watched it, even after all these years. It's the only movie I've ever seen where I desperately hope for a happy ending - each time I watch it! I know how it ends, of course, but I still keep hoping it will end differently. It's very upsetting when it doesn't. People might be admitting to liking it now, but it was greatly under-appreciated when it came out. Both JG and HL deserved Oscars that year, but a lot of the Oscar voters were afraid to watch it.
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Post by coolclearwaters on May 13, 2017 23:50:10 GMT
JG and HL were excellent, but Phillip Seymour Hoffman deserved every award and accolade he received.
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Post by sgev1977 on May 14, 2017 2:49:13 GMT
Sometimes people don't see the entire picture. It's a career and careers have a lot of moments and phases. I remember someone comparing him negatively to Jude Law. He was having major success in West End and was finding critical acclaim meanwhile BC's choices seemed "conventional" or too Hollywood. I think Law is great but his career is long and, like ALL actors with long careers, with a lot of missteps. He, like most British actors, also did a lot of Oscar baity movies and was pushed by Hollywood machinery for the role of leading man (he actually was much less successful than BC in that regard). He was also accused of being in every movie ever made! And, contrary to BC, he was a tabloid celebrity involve in nasty gossips!
You can can say that about a lot of actors: Ralph Fiennes was great in his breakthrough performance in Schindler List. Then he become an Oscar baity actor with his roles in Quiz Show and Weinstein's The English Patient. He was pushed by Hollywood for the leading man role with a razzie worthy action flick, The Avengers and latter a hit in a romantic comedy with Jennifer López (Maid in Manhattan?). He found time to do a few European artistic movies but he also did all those other much more "conventional" Hollywood roles.
And of course JG did The Prince of Egypt and The Day after Tomorrow before becoming the cinema fan boys darling!
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Post by sgev1977 on May 14, 2017 10:59:21 GMT
I love Twitter!
It says that Steve Knight is writing a Suspiria remake and that the stars will be Gyllenhaal and Cumberbatch! It doesn't mentions Luca Guadagnino at all! Also Suspira is about ballerinas. At least the original one!
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Post by coolclearwaters on May 14, 2017 11:18:18 GMT
I love it! Do people even read stories before they tweet about them. When I think of characters I would like to see Benedict play, a ballerina is nowhere near the top of my list! 🤔 Guadagnino's Suspiria has already finished filming, so maybe it will be like The Jungle Book or Spider-Man - endless reboots or competing versions of Suspiria. As far as male ballerinas go, there used to be a parody ballet troupe consisting of male dancers who would play all the parts. For the female roles, they would dress in tutus and dance en pointe. I don't know if they're still around. linkhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Ballets_Trockadero_de_Monte_Carlo
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Post by MagdaFR on May 14, 2017 11:29:18 GMT
I almost did the same when I opened this thread, then I read the article. I had also forgotten we had discussed Tilda playing a man. Yes, that's the Internet.
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Post by sgev1977 on May 14, 2017 11:32:54 GMT
It's extra funny because the account is about horror flicks but clearly the person who wrote that tweet doesn't know Argento's classic! I'm not a horror expert AT ALL but I have watched the movie and I know it's about young aspiring ballerinas not about (almost) fortysomething guys! If aI remember well, most male characters are short and uninteresting and apparently one of them (the old expert, I guess) will be played by Tilda Swinton so... The blind guy who is savagely killed by his guide dog is cool but he is just in one scene. In THAT scene! And there is the guy who helps the main character but I don't even remember if he is a romantic interest or not! I also remember that famous Spanish singer Miguel Bose has a very short role as a male dancer.
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Post by MagdaFR on May 14, 2017 11:45:40 GMT
I've never been a fan of horror movies but lately, in the past few years, I started to like them. I didn't watch Argento's Suspiria, I guess I should before Guadagnino's version.
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Post by dreamsincolour on May 14, 2017 16:35:38 GMT
I've never liked horror films either, and probably less now than ever. But the "horror" I don't like is the type that has chainsaws (or whatever) and torture and is the sort of film that makes you sick. The more fantastical stories I don't mind so much. But what really surprises me about this "Rio" film is that it's getting made so soon. "Call Me By Your Name" hasn't been properly released yet, albeit obviously long finished, yet Guadagnino's isn't just prepping the Suspiria remake before that release, he's actually got it in the bag and in post-production already and is prepping the NEXT! It sounds as if he's another who's a bit hyperactive. It's terribly unusual to do that. I went and looked up an article about him that was only from February, and that was only then talking about "plans" for the Suspiria remake. The plans were obviously further along than he was letting on. This is the article: Hollywood reporterAnd relevant to "Rio" as well was this comment about casting:
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