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Post by igs on May 24, 2017 4:23:51 GMT
So yes, I love and have always loved the big screen but it's extremely complex situation when the "bad guy" is the one doing the good thing! When I said "it's very simple", I wasn't reflecting on quality of the films Netflix produces, or the concerns of theater owners etc. I just think if a film doesn't get theatrical screening, it should not be considered eligible for competition in Cannes or Oscars if not just for the simple reason that this opens up a lot of other films to be nominated. For example, couldn't HBO potentially start producing movies for film awards then too, and what would be the reason for excluding them while including Netflix? It would be like producing a film, then choosing based on its quality whether it's a film-film or just a TV movie. I just think drawing the line at theatrical release would be the simplest option. Don't get me wrong, I love Netflix, it's the best thing that has happened to TV in my life-time (and definitely a good thing to happen to movies, too.)
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Post by mllemass on May 24, 2017 5:07:23 GMT
This is very true! It's hard enough these days to get people in a dark movie theatre to give their undivided attention to the screen, so it's probably impossible when watching at home on Netflix.
When I was little, I would desperately beg my mother to let me go see the latest movies, but she usually said no because they would be on tv eventually and I could watch them for free. She never understood that the two experiences were very different: on tv, the movies were edited and there were commercials interrupting the action every few minutes. But at a movie theatre, you could completely shut out the world lose yourself in the story.
A while back, Jerry Seinfeld was doing talk shows promoting his Seinfeld show being released on some streaming service (I don't remember which, but not Netflix). It seemed strange to me because the show is already on tv all the time, so why would anyone need to stream it? He made a point of saying that he only agreed to it if the episodes would be screened in their entirety. He said that when the show was syndicated, they cut out several minutes of each episode so that they could squeeze in as many commercials as possible. So even though it feels like I've seen Seinfeld a million times over the years, I only REALLY saw it when it originally aired. I had no idea!
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Post by sgev1977 on May 25, 2017 0:57:38 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on May 25, 2017 1:05:09 GMT
So yes, I love and have always loved the big screen but it's extremely complex situation when the "bad guy" is the one doing the good thing! When I said "it's very simple", I wasn't reflecting on quality of the films Netflix produces, or the concerns of theater owners etc. I just think if a film doesn't get theatrical screening, it should not be considered eligible for competition in Cannes or Oscars if not just for the simple reason that this opens up a lot of other films to be nominated. For example, couldn't HBO potentially start producing movies for film awards then too, and what would be the reason for excluding them while including Netflix? It would be like producing a film, then choosing based on its quality whether it's a film-film or just a TV movie. I just think drawing the line at theatrical release would be the simplest option. Don't get me wrong, I love Netflix, it's the best thing that has happened to TV in my life-time (and definitely a good thing to happen to movies, too.) I understand. It's just that I think it's a fascinating subject and I can understand why Cannes decided to include those movies and the two mini series in the first place: they are just fascinating piece of works! Of course they would clash with commercial interests and in general polemic but it seems they didn't immediately recognized that! I think the best solution would be to shortened time between screening and streaming if they really want the prizes! But it depends of movie owners so it's very difficult!
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Post by sgev1977 on May 28, 2017 17:57:15 GMT
I'm watching the award ceremony live and I can't believe Adam Sandler didn't win! Shame on you Joaquin Phoenix! 😉
Wow! Sofia Coppola won Best director. I saw some people "campaigning" for a second (yes, a second) Best Director award for a woman ever but they were saying Lynne Ramsay should win! All of them were British, tho.
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Post by MagdaFR on May 28, 2017 19:11:57 GMT
I can't believe Adam Sandler didn't win! Shame on you Joaquin Phoenix! I can't see your emoji so I don't know if you're serious. Gossip: Phoenix and Mara are dating. Re: women. Did you see the percentage of women on the juries? This time Coppola and Ramsay won prizes but the Palme and the other movie prizes went for men. I kind of liked Force Majeure, but after watching it I discovered that the final scenes with the bus were copied from a real thing that happened, if I remember right, in Spain. Anyway, I hope they release The Square here. I love that almost all the predictions (from the people from AW for instance who think they know so much), were all wrong.
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Post by coolclearwaters on May 28, 2017 19:55:30 GMT
Most of the winners sound interesting to me, especially The Killing of a Sacred Deer, You Were Never Really Here, Loveless, The Beguiled, Wind River (an Un Certain Regard winner), and The Square.
It was exciting to see some women directors honored.
Joaquin Phoenix may be having a banner year. He's a great actor, so that's exciting, but I still can't get excited about that Jesus and Mary film.
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Post by sgev1977 on May 29, 2017 1:34:47 GMT
I can't believe Adam Sandler didn't win! Shame on you Joaquin Phoenix! I can't see your emoji so I don't know if you're serious. Gossip: Phoenix and Mara are dating. Re: women. Did you see the percentage of women on the juries? This time Coppola and Ramsay won prizes but the Palme and the other movie prizes went for men. I kind of liked Force Majeure, but after watching it I discovered that the final scenes with the bus were copied from a real thing that happened, if I remember right, in Spain. Anyway, I hope they release The Square here. I love that almost all the predictions (from the people from AW for instance who think they know so much), were all wrong. a) Of course I was joking! He would never win although I think he is a good actor when he tries! b) I think there was a record of women in competition but the great majority of them were still men so it's not a surprise. c) I read a few reviews that coincide that The Square was a little too long and that it really needed some editing. We have to wait and see. d) TBF they are always very difficult to predict but agreed that it's always a pleasure to see award people trying and failing. They are silly enough to think they can predict them like the Oscars, which by the way any human who read one or two things about the race can do it with relatively success but somehow it makes them feel special! Having said that one critic I follow on Twitter "predicted" a good number of the awards but I don't think he was trying to predict anything he was just saying which were his favorites to win. Also he obviously watched the movies beforehand contrary to award fanboys!
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Post by MagdaFR on May 29, 2017 9:59:53 GMT
a) I imagined so. d) I commented (asking what was the sense of predicting winners based on other people's reviews and rumours) on the thread about Cannes on the Movie-Awards board (proboards, from the people who commented on the Imsb MA board). They opened another thread about the winners and one guy from AW tried to save face saying it was funny that most of the predictions included the same movies but for a different prize as if any permutation was a good prediction. He had predicted Okja! It is the same guy who said he read The Current War script. Look at this! Haha AW Also: Why was he shocked if he was called back to the red carpet? They have no logic.
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Post by sgev1977 on May 29, 2017 11:33:17 GMT
I read some tweets by Phoenix fans saying he was surprised and that he was uncomfortable because he doesn't like award ceremonies but he indeed should knew he won the moment they called him to invite him to the ceremony! This is not the Academy, they call the winners and invite them to go to the event. I understand that they don't tell them what they won but for actors it should be obvious (although this time they gave an special award to Nicole Kidman so there were two actresses awarded in the night)! Also if he really hated those events then I guess he could just not accept the invitation!
It was widely reported that Almodóvar said he can't imagine himself giving the Palm to a Netflix movie so Okja probably didn't have a big chance. Even Swinton replied saying they weren't there for awards! Also it didn't seem like award material...
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