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Post by queenzod on Aug 13, 2023 22:33:09 GMT
I got the second one but not the first one! 😅
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Post by MagdaFR on Aug 14, 2023 7:52:10 GMT
I got the second one but not the first one! 😅 Fassbender.
He had been working non stop for years, he got married to Alicia, had a son, moved to Lisbon and has raced in Le Mans. He's still producing.
Haha I don't follow him but I searched. He said he prefers to win Le Mans to an Oscar.
He has two movies this year but one is Taika Waititis's Next Goal Wins which was delayed for years (Armie Hamer) and The Killer from David Fincher.
More telling, he seemed to really want to be a lead popular actor and produced a few movies that were huge disappointment. And I don’t mean something like TFE or TCW, which were controversial and kinda mistreated by producers because their particular controversies but movies totally designed to be popular that failed miserably in the box office in part because the “weak” lead actor. Probably, he retired for a few years because that. You can say that those failures really affected his career. At least, for a time! I saw an article that said that Assassin's Creed was doing well on Netflix. You´re not fair, sgev1977 . He's done all kind of movies, some very indie. Also Slow West wasn't about an action hero. With AC he was probably trying to get money.
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Post by ellie on Aug 14, 2023 8:38:01 GMT
I haven’t guessed either of them. Please help me out of my ignorance sgev1977. 🫣
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 14, 2023 19:14:07 GMT
Lol I don't want to be nasty. I think they are good actors but they were very hyped like 10 years ago, while BC was hyped but also subjected to frequent backlashes just for being "posh", being nominated to the Oscar for the "wrong" movie, not having issues to do TV work and having mostly a female fandom. Still, IMHO he has the most stable career of the three. And in the long run, more acclaimed, awarded and popular. Even when I would wish for him to work with more real auteurs. Still, he likes to work with new talent and give opportunities to them as producer.
There have been other hyped actors who come and went since he become popular with Sherlock but these two are around his age and were (and who knows? Maybe they still are!) called the best of their generation: Fassbender and Hardy. The first one did a bunch of great films with an enviable streak of auteurs. He seems to still be beloved by them. He just did the new Fincher film which could be his great comeback and it's the lead of the new Taika Waititi which everything suggests isn't that great (it was shot ages ago!) but he never could make a genuine connection with audiences. There was one of those industrial polls that measure not popularity but audiences feelings toward celebrities that showed his "Steve Jobs" suffered of a very negative reaction to him as the star especially when they compared it to people's reaction to the same project when Dicaprio was considered for the role. At the end, he was acclaimed for his performance but the film was a huge disappointed on the box office. I don't know! You maybe could say the same about TFE but Jobbs is a beloved figure, Assange is much more divisive and the Jobbs film was supposedly a great film! In theory, it should had done better! He then did a streak of very bad received movies, produced by him, that seemed to have everything to make him a star. They all bombed on the box office. He then left Hollywood and apparently happily lived his life! (it was also during the Me Too movement and he had an old unconfirmed accusation so maybe he also wanted to keep a low profile). Now, he is back! Good for him! He was a film at Venice Film Festival and another one at Tiff!
And well, Hardy has never left but he was always very problematic and more erratic with his projects, too. He is beloved, tho. People are always trying to justify him! He still has a bad fame on sets.
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 15, 2023 10:51:05 GMT
I got the second one but not the first one! 😅 Fassbender.
He had been working non stop for years, he got married to Alicia, had a son, moved to Lisbon and has raced in Le Mans. He's still producing.
Haha I don't follow him but I searched. He said he prefers to win Le Mans to an Oscar.
He has two movies this year but one is Taika Waititis's Next Goal Wins which was delayed for years (Armie Hamer) and The Killer from David Fincher.
More telling, he seemed to really want to be a lead popular actor and produced a few movies that were huge disappointment. And I don’t mean something like TFE or TCW, which were controversial and kinda mistreated by producers because their particular controversies but movies totally designed to be popular that failed miserably in the box office in part because the “weak” lead actor. Probably, he retired for a few years because that. You can say that those failures really affected his career. At least, for a time! I saw an article that said that Assassin's Creed was doing well on Netflix. You´re not fair, sgev1977 . He's done all kind of movies, some very indie. Also Slow West wasn't about an action hero. With AC he was probably trying to get money. I don’t want to be unfair but Netflix isn’t very trustworthy source. Still, we will see if in the future it really becomes a classic but it doesn’t matter it kinda affected his career at the time (hopefully he could do his big comeback. It seems he is about to do it). And it wasn’t just Assassin’s Creed. That was just his big action flick. There were other big “serious” award baity films directed by very promising filmmakers that just didn’t work on the box office. He did Steve Jobs (2015) which was acclaimed but made only $34M Worldwide from a $30M budget; Macbeth (2015) $16M from a $15/20M budget; The Light Between Oceans (2016), $26M from $20M budget and, of course, The Snowman (2017), $43M from a $35M budget and which totally destroyed Tomas Alfredson career in Hollywood! Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t remember The Telegraph writing an article about how he was a huge failure because his award baity movies failed miserably at the Oscars as they did about BC after TCW even when that movie was damned since the beginning because a huge external sex abuse scandal and a BTS fight about the editing. Meanwhile, BC was having not just big franchise hits but also winning awards everywhere. Mostly TV awards, of course! Which I guess are worse than bad movies and bad numbers on the box office! But yeah, I wish him the best!
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 15, 2023 11:48:36 GMT
Ok, I just remembered a The Telegraph article which was nice to BC and not very nice toward Fassbender! Lol It was after Hamlet was announced. Someone who mostly writes about TV (she actually knows BC’s whole career and I guess it’s not just one of those posers new movies critics who only knows about trendy stuff but barely about anything else!) published a profile about him and very favorably compared him to other actors from his generation. She is/was convinced he is the best one and even said that BC should had played the nasty slave owner in 12 Years a Slave instead of Fassbender (who was nominated to the Oscar!) because BC can humanize any kind of character and making it complex instead of just playing the “evil guy”.
I remember a lot of fans of the other actors she mentioned by name were very angry at her! Lol BC was just too big social media star then and silly fandoms of others were always ready to attack him!
Anyway, probably The Telegraph put him in their own “evil guy” list after his Hamlet’s pro migrants speeches!
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Post by queenzod on Aug 18, 2023 22:22:15 GMT
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