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Post by sgev1977 on Oct 19, 2017 11:44:18 GMT
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Post by mllemass on Oct 19, 2017 12:30:21 GMT
In Siobhan Hewlett's first tweet about her and Benedict representing this charity, there was a comment by someone saying that it wasn't right to have someone without cancer representing those who had it. Surely charities don't work that way! And anyway, how would that tweeter know whether Benedict or the other volunteers had ever had cancer? Not everyone speaks openly about their health. It just seemed a bit sad to me that Benedict's presence there would be upsetting to a cancer victim. I know that a celebrity like Benedict brings a lot of attention - and money - to any charity he supports, and that's why he does it. Even if he's in perfect health (and I hope he is).
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Post by sgev1977 on Oct 19, 2017 12:51:13 GMT
I saw it yesterday and I rolled my eyes. It's identity politics going crazy...AGAIN! Sorry she had that awful illness but what is next? To demand that just doctors who had cancer treat you because only they can understand you! Actually I woulnd't be surprised if someone demand something like it on social media! Because it's just people on social media who think like that. I'm sure most cancer patients are not offended by celebrities trying to help with fundings to help them. It's stupid and it's worth to say it's stupid no matter who said it! Our identities or identifications shouldn't except us of criticisms and people who use them to imposs their awful opinions are manipulative! Also just read Siobhan Hewlett's tweets. Her mother HAS cancer and she is saying BC is so close to her family that he has been present during her chemotherapies. How can you claim that someone who has never had cancer can't understand the suffereing of a family member or a friend? Even if they don't know someone (we all know someone!) how can't you say a human being can't understand another person suffering even when he/she don't feel the physical pain in his/her body? I know social media identity politics reject the idea of emphaty but hey! we human being in the real world know it exists. Slightly OT but I just read a new Guadagnino interview in which he answered the critics his movie and him are receiving because his actors aren't gay and they didn't do full frontal nudes like ALL gay actors in gay themed mivies should do because if they don't then the movie was done just for straight people and/or it's a homophobic film. Obviously! www.irishtimes.com/culture/film/why-do-people-want-to-see-other-people-s-penises-1.3259528
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Post by mllemass on Oct 19, 2017 14:49:12 GMT
This issue came up with the wonderful movie Pride. The director kept getting asked why he hadn't hired only gay actors to play the gay characters. He said that not all gay actors are out, and not all gay actors want to play gay roles. By hiring just "actors", the movie ended up with gay actors and non-gay actors, without them having to state their sexual preferences. Just like for any other movie.
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Post by mllemass on Oct 19, 2017 15:15:56 GMT
I love this sentence!
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Post by roverpup on Oct 19, 2017 16:00:38 GMT
It’s like some folks don’t understand the power of empathy and that is so sad because it is something that is basic to the survival of humanity. Empathy should be universal. “No man is an island” is a concept I believe in.
In fact I find her stance completely lacking in any rationale that makes any sense to me. It speaks to isolation and exclusiveness and it turns away allies in a fight that can only be won by the widest possible inclusive effort. Her remark speaks to tribalism at its worst IMO.
It is absolutely possible to empathize with others, up to and including advocating for them in a vocal and demonstratable way, without having personally experienced a situation. A heartfelt connection through association (which is clearly what BC and Siobhán Hewlet have) is often a tremendously strong bond and having this bond definitely promotes empathy among others which creates supports in a wider sense.
But this sort of isolation seems to be a growing trend in recent times. Too bad. As you have posted it is an attitude that also is prevalent in areas other than just recognition and support in the fight against diseases.
Actors are people trained in eliciting empathy through their skill in dramatics and can give support of viewpoints through material that is presented in the arts. You don’t have to be gay to play a gay character. You don’t have to be gypsy to take on a role that is about a gypsy man. You don’t have to be Asian to be “The Ancient One”. It’s called acting because it is an interpretation of life NOT real life itself.
Demanding exclusiveness as a requirement for participatory efforts to fight for a cause is tantamount to denying it any chance at attaining wider success when attempting to solve any societal problem. It just doesn’t make any sense.
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Post by roverpup on Oct 19, 2017 16:02:06 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Oct 19, 2017 16:59:21 GMT
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Post by roverpup on Oct 20, 2017 4:43:50 GMT
Siobhán Hewlett worked with BC on Fortysomething, Parade’s End and on Sherlock, as well as being mentioned in the credits of Little Favour for supplying a “Voice” and is given a special Thank You. Plus she also worked with Sophie Hunter Cumberbatch on the episode of Midsomer Murders - The Maid in Splendour and they were both in Henry VIII: Mind of a Tyrant. :-))
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Post by sgev1977 on Oct 20, 2017 10:39:35 GMT
She is one of BC’s closest friends. She is on Twitter and I think he sent some messages with her to his fans years ago when he used to doing that with all his friends.
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