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Post by coolclearwaters on Oct 23, 2017 2:28:16 GMT
David Poland has been all over this and seems committed to permanent change in the way it’s covered - at least by him. He’s been around for a long time, so he knows the history with a lot of these people.
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Post by ellie on Oct 24, 2017 15:52:38 GMT
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Post by MagdaFR on Oct 30, 2017 11:16:16 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Oct 30, 2017 13:49:17 GMT
Yes, there is not surprise with Kevin Spacey neither. I think he was also frequently mentioned during the Bryan Singer scandal but even without it there were rumours that he was gay and liked very young men and teenegers.
The surprise was Robert Rodriguez. Everyone thought he was somehow personally involved with Weintein because that weird statement by McGowen that her ex-boyfriend sold his movie to him but it seems she wasnt talking about him (anyway it was weird because that movie was a Weinstein film since the begining). It seems he actually hired her to force him to break the blacklisting Weinstein put on her after she accused him.
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Post by MagdaFR on Oct 30, 2017 17:26:20 GMT
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Post by ellie on Oct 30, 2017 18:09:10 GMT
Yeah, Kevin Spacey's statement was not great. He's getting lots of flack for it.
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Post by MagdaFR on Oct 30, 2017 20:31:04 GMT
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Post by ellie on Oct 30, 2017 21:27:20 GMT
It was time to cancel it anyway.
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Post by dreamsincolour on Oct 31, 2017 1:37:25 GMT
In truth there's nothing criminal to Kevin Spacey, or anyone else, coming on to anyone (male or female). As long as there isn't the abuse of a position of authority and someone can say "No", if they want to, there shouldn't really be anything to be "outed" about. There will always be those who will happily jump into a celebrity or person of influence bed, and there will always be those who will take advantage of that. Unsavory, perhaps, certainly in some circumstances, but not actually "criminal". The problem is when there's actual assault or coercion or harrassment, when someone can't walk away easily with no repercussions, or when it involves anyone below the age of consent. Telling tales out of school, as it were, just to embarrass celebrities and as a means of insignificant people to have effect, will be the downside of the current situation. And there has to be a clear distinction between tittle tattle and the activities of the real abusers.
The Anthony Rapp guy, as far as I understand it, isn't claiming he was raped, so it's not the same level of offence as re Corey Haim (who committed suicide) or re the Corey Feldman guy. I knew Kevin Spacey was gay, but I didn't know about his predilection for minors. And I certainly didn't know that that's such an open "secret" that they had an episode of "Family Guy" featuring one of the young characters running naked through a mall having “escaped from Kevin Spacey’s basement!” That's slander, of course, without evidence, so they must have been very sure of their ground before including something like that. I think Kevin Spacey is associated with the big Hollywood parties of the Bryan Singer et al scandal, where under age boys were provided to purpose. And the obvious issue with the Anthony Rapp case, Spacey's excuses notwithstanding, is why was he, as a 14 year old, was invited to an adult gay party in the first place?
Corey Feldman is now apparently threatening to name names and that's potentially going to be pretty explosive stuff! And the environment now is such that he will be heard at long last.
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Post by MagdaFR on Oct 31, 2017 2:30:39 GMT
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