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Nov 27, 2017 11:26:44 GMT
Post by sgev1977 on Nov 27, 2017 11:26:44 GMT
Guadagnino’s comment about why he didn’t cast gay actors? It’s about Call Me by your Name. There’s a polemic surely in part because it’s an Oscar movie. Nobody cares for the sexuality of actors in little movies from foreign countries at least they are competing for an American award. Jake Gyllenhaal is also in the Oscar race! I know because nasty articles like this: www.theguardian.com/film/2017/nov/27/jake-gyllenhaal-stronger-oscar-southpaw-nightcrawlerHarvey Weinstein is not in Hollywood anymore but he is still there “in spirit”!
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Nov 27, 2017 13:55:15 GMT
Post by MagdaFR on Nov 27, 2017 13:55:15 GMT
I found it kind of funny. And JG is campaigning for the nomination at least. I think the reason is perhaps that it is his production company first movie (not a documentary). If the budget is the one that you find googling it, it is 30mi. The BO is less than 6mi. He needs the nomination. He won the HFA Awards for best actor.
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Nov 27, 2017 14:23:19 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Nov 27, 2017 14:23:19 GMT
I know he is campaigning but I don't think he is desperate to win an Oscar. The same with DiCaprio. Of course, I can be sure! But I think most actors and directors and producers do it because it's a good marketing tool.Not because the award itself.
In the case of Gyllenhaal, he really seem interested in working with great directors. Something I admire even when I'm not a fan. I doubt his acting choices are just a scheme to win an award like that article suggests.
But somehow these kind of nasty pieces appears every year at this time. Irrational articles questioning the accuracy of real life movies, the politically correcness of movies/casting/personalities and now this. This is the kind of bullying Weinstein was accused before the sexual abuse scandal, well, he is not in Hollywood anymore!
EDITED: he has a good line up of films with his production company but that budget is big. I doubt he financed it but wow!
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Nov 27, 2017 15:31:49 GMT
Post by roverpup on Nov 27, 2017 15:31:49 GMT
I know he is campaigning but I don't think he is desperate to win an Oscar. The same with DiCaprio. Of course, I can be sure! But I think most actors and directors and producers do it because it's a good marketing tool.Not because the award itself. In the case of Gyllenhaal, he really seem interested in working with great directors. Something I admire even when I'm not a fan. I doubt his acting choices are just a scheme to win an award like that article suggests. But somehow these kind of nasty pieces appears every year at this time. Irrational articles questioning the accuracy of real life movies, the politically correcness of movies/casting/personalities and now this. This is the kind of bullying Weinstein was accused before the sexual abuse scandal, well, he is not in Hollywood anymore! EDITED: he has a good line up of films with his production company but that budget is big. I doubt he financed it but wow! That’s how I feel too sgev. I am not a specific fan of JG but I have seen a number of his movies and overall have liked what I saw. He doesn’t strike me as someone who is desperate for an Oscar. Maybe he just is drawn to those roles for many different reasons. We know from BC that he has a lot of different reasons why he accepts certain roles (including some very personal ones that have do with the opportunity to remain close to his family while filming). So it is very presumptuous of anyone to just think they KNOW the career motivation of an actor from looking at BO Mojo or IMDb. Like you said awards are a good marketing tools and help bring more choices (of directors to work with, financing of their own productions, other people to work with, etc.) down the road. Even if I found some of the movies in which JG was cast not entirely to my personal liking (eg. Nocturnal Animals) I can say with full confidence that they were all intriguing projects that had legitimate merits of their own. It’s pretty harsh to judge his participation in these films with a cheap insult like “he just did them to get a statue”. And I also agree with you on the proliferation of “nasty” toned pieces like this one (sometimes I think certain cynical writers equate sarcasm and snark with being clever and a “look at me - I’m too above it all to show anything except disdain!!” attitude). It is a sign of an immature and uninformed mind IMO who has to resort to such tactics such as the writer of that smear piece did. Trashing actors for historical details, gender/sexual orientation/racial pc issues in casting and award ambitions is an easy write when you have nothing of substance to say. It does the Guardian no service to run with pieces like this in my book. And it does have a whiff of the same heavy-handed, smear tactics that HW was criticised so heavily for. :-))
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Nov 27, 2017 18:16:37 GMT
Post by MagdaFR on Nov 27, 2017 18:16:37 GMT
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Nov 27, 2017 19:48:26 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Nov 27, 2017 19:48:26 GMT
Wow! That is much more worst than the other! I don't know who the author is but sounds like a Tumblr nut! There is a part in which she even claims Hammer finally "happened" because he "liked" a pair of S&M posts on Twitter! Really? Just a Tumblr kid could think that is relevant in real world!
Then it's hysterical how at the end she linked his "whiteness", "maleness", I don't know! to Weinstein and says that still we shouldn't boycott CBYN! Why we even would think in boycotting CBYN? Because she thinks he looks like an asshole?!
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Dec 1, 2017 2:49:04 GMT
Post by sgev1977 on Dec 1, 2017 2:49:04 GMT
The other day I saw THR author of one of the pieces cited there and the silly girl who wrote that thing discussing on Twitter. Interesting enough she and one of her followers didn’t understood why the guy mentioned the timing of posting what basically is a hit piece during the Oscar race. Maybe she is just a useful fool! She doesn’t seem to be very bright (and yes, I read she has a Phd which to me only shows how privileged she also is!) Anyway apparently it’s not her first “article” of this type. Twitter said she did something similar with Tom Hanks!!! Tumblr “journalism”! Just what we needed!
More ugly and weird stuff: Corey Feldman accused Guadagnino and co. of promoting pedophilia; the favorites aren’t so “great” anymore because you know, we are at time for the backlash and there is a “perfect” movie which it’s now being acclaimed as the best reviewed movie EVER just because it has a 100% rating on Rotten Tomatoes!! I hope I’m wrong but when I see something is loved by everybody I tend to suspect and think it must be something completely inoffensive! At the beginnings of the site those ratings were exclusively for Disney flicks but now an Oscar movie is being sold with that tag line! I guess it could confirm the theory that movie critics nowadays tend to think in mass and dissenting voices are silenced by the group who just want to be on the “right” side! That would be the case of why films are now The worst thing ever or the best thing ever . Nothing in between!
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Dec 11, 2017 16:20:27 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Dec 11, 2017 16:20:27 GMT
I have seen a few angry tweets because Guadagnino and any female directors were not nominated for best director. That's ok but at least two of them say all nominees are white straight men. So I guess Guillermo Del Toro doesn't count as Mexican because he is "güero"...
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Dec 11, 2017 16:29:32 GMT
Post by MagdaFR on Dec 11, 2017 16:29:32 GMT
Guillermo Del Toro is white, straight and male. He is Latin but that is another thing. The fact is that no female, no black person, no homosexual has been nominated as a director and instead they nominated R. Scott whose movie isn't finished yet.
I hate the POC umbrella.
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Dec 11, 2017 17:28:57 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Dec 11, 2017 17:28:57 GMT
Interesting I have noted that other Latin American countries see Latin Americans with fair skin as white. I understand why but I think it's a little more complex in Mexico. In the South, you can have a non-mixed "white" family, I guess, but in the North you can actually have blood family members with fair skin and with brown skin at the same time. It doesn't mean there is not discrimination but it's more about having a silly concept of beauty (which it could be very traumatic) than something systematic.
I don't know about Del Toro family history but I don't think people would call him "white" here at least as a racial thing and I doubt he or someone like him is considered anything different than a Mexican in the USA.
Having said that of course awards are unfair! They always are! Greta Gerwig and Guadagnino deserved a nomination? According to reviews, yes! Patty Jerkins would had been a political choice. Nothing against her or her movie but superhero movies aren't normally considered for awards so her hypothetical inclusion would sound like a concession which ironically it was probably the case with Ridley Scott!
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