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Post by sgev1977 on Feb 3, 2021 22:15:34 GMT
I won't lie, this made me think WTF? Apparently her father is in part Argentine but this reminded me to that time Guillermo Del Toro inclusion to the best director nominees to the Oscars wasn't considered diverse because he is clearly a so called "white Mexican". Lol It's complicated because obviously racial politics are very different in Latin America than in the USA even when Americans and some local woke kids insist it's the same and we should obey (and obsess) about American "rules". Also I don't know her nor Del Toro's ancestry but in general, Argentinians are considered (European) whites as, you know, white Americans meanwhile there is a big possibility than a Mexican with an old family in the country would have at least a little of Indigenous (or black) blood even if he is blond with blue eyes.
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Post by sgev1977 on Feb 3, 2021 22:24:30 GMT
OMG! They delated it! I think meanwhile I was writing my opinion Lol. Surely they offended to someone. If she is Argentinian then they were right but it wasn't a good idea to use the term "Latinx" instead of "Latina". That term is for hypersensitive people offended by everything and obviously they wouldn't be happy they used it for such a blonde white actress.
EDITED I just checked Variety mentions and there is only one negative comment (by a woman who kind of looks white but I guess could be a "white" Latina!) the rest is just Argentinians celebrating her! Maybe they were quoting them! Anyway, it's so insane!
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Post by MagdaFR on Feb 3, 2021 23:54:31 GMT
I won't lie, this made me think WTF?
Apparently her father is in part Argentine but this reminded me to that time Guillermo Del Toro inclusion to the best director nominees to the Oscars wasn't considered diverse because he is clearly a so called "white Mexican". Lol It's complicated because obviously racial politics are very different in Latin America than in the USA even when Americans and some local woke kids insist it's the same and we should obey (and obsess) about American "rules". Also I don't know her nor Del Toro's ancestry but in general, Argentinians are considered (European) whites as, you know, white Americans meanwhile there is a big possibility than a Mexican with an old family in the country would have at least a little of Indigenous (or black) blood even if he is blond with blue eyes. What was this about? Taylor-Joy?
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Post by sgev1977 on Feb 4, 2021 0:35:31 GMT
Yes, they said she was the only Latinx nominated this year and I didn't knew she was a "Latinx"! I thought she was British. Apparently her father it's half Argentinian. The article is the Clayton Davis one. He discreetly mentioned it. There's another tweet saying that it's the first time that two Muslims will compete in the same Best Actor category (Riz Ahmed and Tahar Rahin). That one is still there.
I just saw an article on Deadline claiming there is not enough diversity this year and TBH I think it's insane because the categories are pretty diverse this year! We Latinos are the ones who should be angry because it's crazy that the biggest minority in the USA is almost not represented on the big screen but that's a problem with films not awards because seriously which high profile film with Latinos (except Taylor-Joy) is competing this year? Anyway, that article is mostly angry because the Spike Lee movie and that I may destroy you series were ignored so it's still about black representation and no one else. I'm not sure all these divisions are productive and I think those articles are damaging. It's ok to criticize that Delroy Lindo wasn't nominated but don't tell me that a category with three non-white persons and two white British is not diverse enough. If anything it's very pro-British (3 of them!) and not enough American (just one!).
EDITED I am seeing the nominations and Lin-Manuel Miranda is nominated. He is a Latino!
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Post by sgev1977 on May 11, 2021 0:09:00 GMT
How do you feel about the scandal?
I’m not even sure what it’s happening. I mean everyone know these are very corrupted awards and that the voters are unprofessional and well, some randoms so why now? And more important, why the people/institutions that usually pay for their awards are the ones who are presenting themselves in such a self-righteous way?! I’m mean if anything they are complicit!
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Post by MagdaFR on May 11, 2021 0:44:29 GMT
They're guilty of supreme hypocrisy. Journos, critics, actors, NBC, etc...
Look at this tweet, she had no problem accepting a nomination.
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Post by sgev1977 on May 11, 2021 0:52:00 GMT
They totally deserved the backlash but it’s kind of creepy to though that if someone or something find themselves in the wrong side the hypocritical mob would go for it. Even when they themselves are/were part of the problem.
EDITED I thought on Netflix paying a trip to the set of Emily in Paris for members and now the company boycotting them but apparently it was Paramount. Netflix bought the series after that incident. But historically there are a lot of those kind of “incidents”.
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Post by sgev1977 on May 15, 2021 11:35:45 GMT
As I said above I’m a really perplexed for what it’s happening with the Golden Globes. They have always had a bad fame of corruption and unprofessionalism but at the same time, why so suddenly and why now? And with accusations of racism, sexism and homophobia…in their nominations?!
I follow a woman who is member because she promised a BC interview for The Courier. Probably she will post it when it’s released in her country. But the point is that she is very angry at the criticism and she listed all the diverse nominations and charities they work with. And indeed, last year their nominations for actors were pretty diverse but I remember they were still automatically accusing them of racism because they weren’t the “diverse” actors… that they wanted to be nominated! And that’s what make this campaign against the Globes slightly creepy. They could accused them of corruption because they apparently were “bought” by the Emily in Paris people (like a lot of company did: with travels and presents. But in that case film and TV companies were also corrupt, doesn’t?) but instead they accused them of racism for not nominated I May Destroy You, allegedly the series they left out.
It doesn’t mean, they aren’t racist or sexist or whatever. The accusations of bad behavior behind the scenes and awkward questions are very telling and seems to indicate they indeed are all those things and sometimes worst (Brendan Fraser was sexually assaulted by a gay member during one of their events!) but why centering so much in the “I didn’t liked that they didn’t nominated this particular person so they aren’t diverse enough” when it’s very easy for members to demonstrate that their nominations were actually pretty diverse and that the accusers are lying about it! That’s what confuses me.
Anyway, I read an article yesterday about a black woman who was invited to be a member years ago (another accusations is that they don’t have black members so that’s why they don’t vote for “diverse” nominations!). It’s an interesting piece because she didn’t accused them exactly of racism but about being territorial in the most stupid way! She had to promised to them that she wouldn’t published in certain countries of Africa because that was the territory of an ex- miss Universe participant/winner from South Africa. Apparently there are some other similar cases (and law suits) by white journalists! So it’s a very silly, ridiculous and, yes, sometimes, bigoted association that deserves all those attacks but I would preferred critics were sincere with their accusations and not creepily attacking them just because they didn’t agreed with their stupid nominations!
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