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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 4, 2024 13:48:31 GMT
Very perplexed by the reception. I am not actively searching for reviews but I have casually seeing opposite messages about the quality of it. I saw that Rotten Tomatoes added Eric so I visited the site and I saw that Ripley had a 92% of score. That’s great! And as I said above, apart of Variety review, the article that said it had a tepid reception was quoting mostly British publication that are not part of RT (The Guardian, which it’s counted, published a rave). Maybe it was just a nasty British thing!
But now, I searched for BC’s news and I saw that USA Today (they mention Sherlock and BC in the review) gave it one star and half out of 4!
It seems it has a lot of fans (enough to put it with a very positive RT score, at least, until now) but critics who hate it, really hate it.
It seems to me it’s a stunning looking very arty series that moves like an arty film but TV is, for a lot of critics, a word and plot medium. For example, I really like the Expats series with Nicole Kidman but it barely registered with press and audiences and I think it’s because it was directed like that, as an art film, so there were a lot of stuff that was there and was significant but it didn’t seemed to advance the plot in the traditional way that TV directors try to do. Even eccentric David Lynch and his surrealism, a real film auteur, adapted much better to the medium and nothing seemed wasted even when it didn’t always made sense! But probably something more low key just look like shallow, unnecessary and boring on TV.
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Post by MagdaFR on Apr 4, 2024 15:02:18 GMT
Better not to read reviews then, I'm going to watch it first.
Perhaps Netflix was expecting this situation.
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 4, 2024 16:02:44 GMT
Sorry, Magda! I didn’t wanted to spoil you with the reviews! Anyway, I read only three reviews and the two articles with quotes from reviews and I sincerely doesn’t know what to think! Although it seems both negative and positives agreed in some of the few things. They just interpret them differently.
It seems they also lift the embargo of Scoop. At least with it, it was the day before they will stream it. I remember entertainment journalists were very excited about it when footage was released in the different Netflix events.
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Post by MagdaFR on Apr 4, 2024 17:05:37 GMT
Sorry, Magda! I didn’t wanted to spoil you with the reviews! Anyway, I read only three reviews and the two articles with quotes from reviews and I sincerely doesn’t know what to think! Although it seems both negative and positives agreed in some of the few things. They just interpret them differently. It seems they also lift the embargo of Scoop. At least with it, it was the day before they will stream it. I remember entertainment journalists were very excited about it when footage was released in the different Netflix events. No problem! You didn't spoil anything and, also, I usually read reviews before watching almost anything. I was just thinking that in this case where opinions are divisive perhaps it's better to see it by myself first.
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Post by mllemass on Apr 4, 2024 17:09:16 GMT
I’m not interested in reading reviews until I watch it myself, so I’m avoiding them as much as possible. The negative stuff I read earlier was just reacting to the whole idea of the series, before anyone watched it. But I won’t read after today.
I just started watching it, and now I’ve seen the first episode. My initial opinions: Andrew Scott sounds lovely speaking Italian, especially since he’s playing someone who’s just learning Italian. His pronunciation is perfect.
Seeing Tom uncomfortable wearing a tiny bathing suit has been a highlight so far! It brings up vivid memories of being on the beach in 1970s Italy absolutely shocked at the men going around almost naked. In comparison, my father looked ridiculous is his knee-length shorts. Ha!
And the music has been fabulous - classic Italian songs I heard throughout my childhood.
I know these things have nothing at all to do with the show, but I don’t want to spoil anything.
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Post by mllemass on Apr 5, 2024 1:22:03 GMT
I’m on episode 5, and I’ve had to pause it for now. Much of it has kind of turned into a one-man show, since Andrew has so much screen time either alone, or struggling with dead bodies. Ha! I’ll be curious to find out whether critics were confused about whether it’s supposed to come across as comical at times - because I think it is. And, if you’re interested, Andrew sort of does do what might be called a gay love scene
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Post by mllemass on Apr 5, 2024 1:50:36 GMT
I just saw that Andrew Scott will be on Jimmy Kimmel tonight!
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 5, 2024 1:53:13 GMT
I searched for the review to see if I hadn’t read it wrong but no… variety.com/2024/tv/reviews/ripley-tv-review-netflix-series-1235957687/Even the positive one in THR said something along the same lines! But I thin’ it said it specifically about him and Dickie I guess homoerotism isn’t the same than sex! You don’t need sex to be erotic and some sex scenes aren’t really erotic? Or something like that! Lol By the way, the Vulture critic said it was the best series he has watched in years. So yeah, there is some division.
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Post by mllemass on Apr 5, 2024 6:37:59 GMT
I don’t remember any homoeroticism from the movie. Maybe they saw something in the movie that wasn’t really there? I don’t know. However, this series does deal with the “queer” issue (which is how they refer to it) in pretty much every episode, so it’s just plain wrong to say it’s not there. And just to clarify, Andrew’s “love scene” that I mentioned wasn’t sex, but it was intimate and him pretending to be someone else. Or something. It’s complicated! Ha!
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 5, 2024 10:13:52 GMT
Well, homoerotism doesn’t mean explicit and yes, there was a lot of it in Minghella movie. Especially, the relationship between Damon and Law characters was pretty homoerotic. Damon’s Ripley seemed to be in love with Dickie’s Law (who looked impossible beautiful in that role, by the way) and, right or wrong, that’s what it’s mentioned in the new series reviews: that the new Ripley supposedly only see Dickie like a tool for him to become rich that this time he supposedly doesn’t seem to have feelings for him like the Ripley in the other two versions suggested.
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