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Post by mllemass on Aug 26, 2018 1:12:27 GMT
They’re showing the Zoolander movies on tv tonight, so I’m watching Zoolander 2. I haven’t seen it since it came out, even though I think it’s on Netflix. It’s still a whole lot of silly nonsense, just as I remembered it! But Benedict seems a lot more impressive now. His All was controversial at the time, but it was actually a good role for him. In his scene, the camera stayed on him for a long time while dialogue was taking place, and I don’t know how he kept a straight face during the whole thing. And then they had him fly down during the fashion show with the whip, screaming. This role certainly shows that he’s versatile, can do comedy, and isn’t afraid to look ridiculous.
I’ll have to make sure to watch the end credits to see if the include the scene with All dancing.
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Post by mllemass on Jun 1, 2019 17:10:25 GMT
I just saw that it’s on tv again. I managed to remember that the scene with Benedict/All is at 28 minutes into the movie - 25 minutes, to be safe. And it lasts about 3 minutes. It’s still as insane as ever! I’ll bet most people who watch this have no idea that it’s Benedict, and most people don’t bother watching the credits. I made my sister watch that scene the last time it was on, but she thought I was mistaken and told me he wasn’t in it. Ha!
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Post by mllemass on Oct 28, 2019 1:01:32 GMT
It was on tv again tonight. Now I know to just turn to it at about a half-hour in to catch All, and then the end credits. There’s really nothing else to see there.
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Post by mllemass on Jan 28, 2022 23:21:04 GMT
I’ll put these here!
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 29, 2022 0:04:57 GMT
I personally blocked a lot of click-baity sites posting this no-news. It’s great to see how little traction it had on social media but that didn’t stopped shitty sites trying to get some easy clicks! Well, it seems they didn’t have them! But it’s an example of how prefabricated “polemics” by the worst of the worst kind of press work.p (yes, including Variety and EW)
Also blocked a pair of “journalists” suggesting that Penelope Cruz mentioned the movie to damage his Oscar chances (supposedly because hers are dead) and that she was intentionally trying to “exhibit” him or was a “hard press” to him. That only show how bad they are in their jobs and again how shitty they are for making those connections. They clearly didn’t watched the thing but blindly believe in clickbaity headlines! The Variety tweets were undoubtedly malicious (they had already a piece about Zoolander 2 at the same second the Actors on Actor video was posted, too.). She “asking” about Method (even when Method wasn’t mentioned at any moment in the video), the suggestion that she was calling BC for “bringing the darkness” to his house with his kids when it was her who was confessing that she used to be very intense and wanted to know how BC managed that!; and apparently it was somehow shameful or embarrassing that she asked for the erotic scene with the Bronco Henry’s handkerchief! He is clickbaity and they are trying to take advantage of that but that’s not on Cruz at all! The chat was actually lovely and insightful! And she, the muse of the greatest LGBT filmmaker in the world, declared that she thought BC was very funny in Zoolander, by the way!
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 29, 2022 0:15:17 GMT
Also WTF with Lady Gaga’s fans angry at BC because he is “permitted” to talk about Method and she apparently is not! Lol The funny thing is that there are now two or three interviews of BC saying that what Jane Campion asked him to do isn’t Method at all because Method is about your own personal experiences and his and Campion’s technique was the opposite but that hasn’t stopped press to declare that he “talked about Method”! Variety posted a few tweets saying that and again idiots didn’t bothered to watch the video to give an opinion!
“Method” is, of course, not an acting technique anymore but a click-baity fraud and apparently Lady Gaga practice it!
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Post by mllemass on Jan 29, 2022 1:51:00 GMT
I don’t think Lady Gaga and her fans understand what “method” means. She dyed her hair dark (so, back to her natural colour?) to feel like her character, and she spent months speaking with that awful accent to get it just right. As many pointed out, those months would have been better spent actually learning Italian.
From the interviews we’ve seen so far, it sounds like Kirsten Dunst is the one who actually went “method”. She said that to play the insecure Rose, she had to remember a time when she felt like that in her life. Benedict, meanwhile, has said that although he did use the techniques suggested by Jane Campion, he thinks he would have managed to find a way to play Phil on his own.
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Post by mllemass on Jan 29, 2022 2:13:09 GMT
From the Twitter comments I’ve read, most people are saying that either they never watched (or even heard of) Zoolander 2, or that the movie had a lot of worse problems. And then there are people disagreeing with Benedict saying that a trans actor should play a trans role. They’re complaining that he said it was a misstep!
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 29, 2022 2:31:44 GMT
There is practically not reactions to the, again, no-news. It’s just a bunch of click-baity sites trying to create a polemic. It’s basically only a press thing! It was something “polemic” at the time. That’s why Variety was quickly to highlight that quote but I guess it’s not relevant anymore! Ironically, it was Cruz who said the potentially “polemic” thing: she thought the character was funny! BC was apologetic but, again, he is the clickbaity one.
The thing that bothered me was the two persons (I know! Just two!) suggesting she mentioned the film to hurt BC and that she intentionally made the interview difficult for him. I don’t care if they were joking or not. That conversation was great and it doesn’t deserve to be reduced to Oscar race etiquette! I doubt any Oscar voter would doubt of any of them because that video or because an old bad film anyway! It’s a ridiculous idea! But it doesn’t matter, it was just great to seem them being so open and sincere with each other about their craft and that’s the important thing. I can’t understand how someone would watch that video and think one of them was trying to boycott the other!
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 29, 2022 2:46:15 GMT
I don’t think Lady Gaga and her fans understand what “method” means. She dyed her hair dark (so, back to her natural colour?) to feel like her character, and she spent months speaking with that awful accent to get it just right. As many pointed out, those months would have been better spent actually learning Italian. From the interviews we’ve seen so far, it sounds like Kirsten Dunst is the one who actually went “method”. She said that to play the insecure Rose, she had to remember a time when she felt like that in her life. Benedict, meanwhile, has said that although he did use the techniques suggested by Jane Campion, he thinks he would have managed to find a way to play Phil on his own. I think it’s mostly the press and it’s the same logic that with the Zoolander movie. The press knows that some randoms on social media become really angry when they read that an actor is doing “Method” so any eccentricity it’s called “Method” by them and the often male actor is automatically considered crazy. I don’t know about Gaga but she certainly is a clickbaity star so I wouldn’t be surprised if some of her quotes are out of context. In the case of BC, again, it was mostly something designed by Jane Campion but she isn’t a clickbaity star so she is ignored. Also one social media cliche is that women are inoffensive delicate creatures incapable of any eccentricity so why Campion would do something like that? And Dust is clearly the “victim” so, of course, she can’t do “Method”! it’s funny because I remember one of the interviews in which BC mentioned it wasn’t Method was one of the two radio interviews from this week but the BBC wrote an article saying “he went complete Method!” I don’t know maybe it was about the other one! But he certainly didn’t mentioned Method in neither of them!
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