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Post by MagdaFR on Nov 21, 2018 12:14:56 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Nov 22, 2018 3:01:44 GMT
I can’t say I’m an expert in the UK, neither! But I think it was always suspected/ kind of obvious that Corbyn was pro-Brexit even when he tried to be discreet during the referendum. There are a lot of left wing people who are protectionists and he clearly is one of them. People like to think that it’s left vs. right but it’s not. It’s about free markets vs protectionism. For example, in the USA, someone like Bernie Sanders has actually a lot in common with Donald Trump’s ideas but most left wing people would probably not admit it: both are very pro-USA and think international deals/immigration are damaging working class American people (one prominent Mexican journalist was actually shocked when he interviewed Sanders and discovered he was extremely ignorant of Latin American countries issues. Also that he just didn’t care and didn’t though he needed to care).
Here in Latin America we are in a similar situation with the advance of populism and protectionism. In Mexico, we got a left wing character and I think it’s much more better than what poor Brazil got! But things here are very surreal and even when he supposedly is protectionist he is actually very ambiguous with everything he says and there is all kind of people around him so we actually doesn’t even know what will actually happen here but at least he isn’t talking about killing rivals and beating homosexuals like Bolsonaro (it’s the opposite, he seems to want to help everyone including his rivals and.. corrupt politicians... and drug dealers. He want(ed) to pardon them!). Maybe it’s becauce there is a lot of corruption here that ideologies aren’t never 100% pure. Corruption is a monster in itself, of course, but it never tries to achieve ideological purity! I actually considered Brazil similar (until Bolsonaro). I once read an opinion piece on The Guardian that said the opposite but the true is that Mexico and Brazil were never pure Neoliberal states. They never let behind a lot of the old time protectionism and probably that’s why it’s worrying a triumph of strict protectionism here: corruption is our main issue and a strong government tends to feed corruption. If it didn’t died during our supposedly “glorious” neoliberal (weak government) years imagine now! Countries like Argentina and Chile are much more purists with their politics!IMHO Maybe I’m wrong! The point is the way of thinking is the same everywhere: people tired of being ignored by the system voting for populist and radical charcaters or measures. Some of them are from the extreme right and others from the left but in both cases they are voting against neoliberals. In the UK, David Cameron was the neoliberal/the establishment/the system; Corbyn, Farage, the alternative; Boris Johnson and Michael Gove were probably just clowns who wanted to take advantage of the situation! That’s my very simplistic interpretation of this mess!
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 8, 2019 14:49:39 GMT
I haven't watched it yet but I found interesting this video: It seems it's recreated on the movie.
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Post by mllemass on Jan 8, 2019 15:48:39 GMT
When Benedict punched the ceiling tile in the movie, it looked like it broke rather than just falling off.
But that scene reminds me that we were once again treated with Benedict’s astonishing ability to step effortlessly onto a table! I’ll have to add that to the list of the special skills he gets to show off in his performances.
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Post by MagdaFR on May 24, 2020 10:51:01 GMT
Cummings and COVID-19 and his trip to Durham I understand that everybody (except tories) hates Cummings but I understand that he chose to have someone to take care of his son. I'm sure he's had all his family tested. The trip to Durham isn't long. He could do it without stopping. And not having direct contact with others. Also, they've promoted herd immunity. If I were Johnson or Cummings I'd be showing that they were doing exactly what they preached. Haha By the way, I don't agree with them. Anyway, here is a thread of Dominic Cummings as death and cadavers: Edit: I read now that he's been traveling to Durham regularly.
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Post by queenzod on May 24, 2020 12:28:05 GMT
Yeah, he did it more than once. It’s just another example of one rule for the elites and another for the plebes. People are furious, especially at other ministers supporting him. I wonder if he’ll resign.
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Post by MagdaFR on May 24, 2020 13:36:55 GMT
The left haven't shown any strength so I personally think he'll be alright. People voted Brexit and Tories.
What twitter says is not all the UK. It's been clear since Brexit.
He'll be in the shadows anyway.
Also, those journalists asking him questions about him breaking the rules while standing side by side and not using masks don't look good.
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Post by sgev1977 on May 24, 2020 13:46:50 GMT
I understand why he did it (his kids) but it was wrong and I consider it is a grave fault for someone like him and that in a first world country it would end in resignation. Not in my country in which the president himself frequently violated the rules at the beginning of the epidemic and it seems neither in the UK!
It's still unbelievable how much some Twitter users hate him! It's fair to be angry at him. He deserves it but saying he is the worst villain BC as played and naming not just his two The Hobbit characters (someone just now!) but yesterday someone say he was worst than his Paul Marshall! In other words, he breaking the rules (pretty bad because simple mortals in much worst situations couldn't do it) to take his kids to a safer place with their grandparents is worst than to rape a child! How?!
About, the herd thing. I remember some interesting anecdote about the issue. A few months ago, I logged in to Twitter and the first thing I read was a comment by the writer of the book The Uncivil War was based in, he is saying that Cummings critics should at least admit that he agreed with them that the heard immunization was wrong and was against it and campaigned for Johnson (very pro) changing it. I thought "interesting". Then I saw a multitude of tweets by others accusing Cummings of wanting to kill their grandparents! I'm "what is happening?". There is even an out of context quote taken from an article in which it seems indeed that Cummings is willing to sacrifice old people for the economy.
I search for the article and my first surprise is that the author is the guy "defending" him! The one who wrote the first tweet! Of course, it shows something much more complex: Cummings agreed with the rest of the government that heard immunization was the way to go at the beginning. That's were the "if some old people die so be it". Awful! Right? Except it's not a direct Cummings quote but from the source, allegedly a Cummings critic probably being hyperbolic about the decided policy! Then the article tells how Cummings talked with some health experts and changed of mind and campaigned for the much more convinced Johnson to do the same. Now you can do a case of the changing of policy being too late and blame him in part for it or ask why someone like him is so influential inside the government. That's right but the "he wanted to kill my granny!" was EXTREMELY simplistic and mad! I really think that you can't achieve anything durable or valuable if your activism is reduced to that kind of simplification. The guy should be accountable for a lot of stuff but criticism based in lies just helps him with his case!
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Post by MagdaFR on May 24, 2020 14:16:37 GMT
Lately I've seen people who hated Piers Morgan making him like a hero now.
I don't want to go into Piers Morgan tweets too far but I can't understand his stance on this. He's been replying to the Brexit politicians who defended Cummings.
Perhaps he's just an idiot and now he's seeing things he didn't before but I guess there must be something else.
Also, putting a NHS beside his name after voting for Brexit and the conservatives.
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Post by queenzod on May 24, 2020 16:33:01 GMT
Piers Morgan has changed tactics somewhat over the last month. The thing with Twitter is there’s no subtlety. People are heroes or fools, there’s no inbetween. That’s why cancel culture is so prevalent on there, and why people’s minds are blown when someone isn’t acting purely in their “stream.” Over inflate or damn them to hell. It’s easy. 😂
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