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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 17, 2019 23:52:29 GMT
I posted it in the press thread but on Twitter the magazine is calling it review so maybe this is the right place.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 18, 2019 0:04:19 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 18, 2019 14:11:33 GMT
I just read the worst "it's an immoral movie" take. I was laughing until I understood how creepy that article was! So very creeepy! It was by an Spanish site and it's the only negative comment I have read there. Most people seem to have linked their own situation with what it is shown in the movie and I'm guessing that's why this person hated it so much (although a quick search shows she is a TV critic! Maybe she is just dumb!)
First, she calls the movie "ethically questionable" and compares it to Soviet propaganda which it's a huge hyperbole but I guess not something rare in today's online discussions. Then things become crazier and crazier and suddenly she is defending Soviet propaganda!!!! You see it's normal, people, especially polititians, historically has done all kind of publicity, including films, to tell lies so why to criticize a Leave strategist for lying when everybody does and historically have ever done? His "sin" was to use modern technologies but that's just the normal next step!
Then she makes fun of journalists that say their work is the search for the truth because she remembers some of their (very establishment) newspapers covers and... I don't know she doesn't say what is on their covers but I guess it's something really bad because somehow it confirms they are the same as the "fake news" on Facebook. Journalists criticizing Facebook are apparently the same as Theatre owners criticizing Netflix, she says. It's just people not wanting to accept new technologies for telling lies because remember, everyone tells lies and there's nothing wrong with it.
Then why the movie is immoral? Well, because it doens't openly admits it's propaganda, Channel 4 is part of the establishment and dares to criticizes the "fake news" on Facebook! And it was made in the middle of the conflict, of course! (TOO SOOOOONNNN!!!!)
Wow!
Of course, telling lies is not something new and using inmigrants or other groups as scapegoat is common in certain political quarters (she also defends that, by the way!) but that has always been "ethically questionable" (read the Letras Libres article posted above). Using personal data obteined in a shadowy way just adds to the "questionable", it's actually not the main issue presented in the movie (the central theme is the division which she never mentions, by the way). Also the film made clear that the pioneer wasn't the Conservative strategist but a Liberal American politician, Obama (That's not the kind of data that propaganda movies forget to tell but curiously the artcile did).
Traditional journalists can err and have erred but not matter how imperfect it could be, trying to find the truth is not the same that deliberately lie to manipulate big groups of individuals.
This is where relativism take us!
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 18, 2019 14:43:06 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 18, 2019 15:04:36 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 18, 2019 17:36:19 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 18, 2019 17:48:52 GMT
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Post by mllemass on Jan 18, 2019 19:40:36 GMT
I also don’t remember anything about the pregnancy complications! I did think it was strange, though, that the character of his wife was only in one scene and for only a minute or so - certainly not long enough to “sag” the movie! Maybe the HBO version is longer? Have they said how long it will be? I don’t think HBO has commercials, so the running time should be under two hours.
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Post by roverpup on Jan 18, 2019 20:02:43 GMT
I also don’t remember anything about the pregnancy complications! I did think it was strange, though, that the character of his wife was only in one scene and for only a minute or so - certainly not long enough to “sag” the movie! Maybe the HBO version is longer? Have they said how long it will be? I don’t think HBO has commercials, so the running time should be under one hour. The version I saw on Vimeo was just over 1 hr. 30 minutes and had no commercials. I did see descriptions of it that said it was a two hour film and I assumed it was that length with the commercials. I am going to watch the HBO version tomorrow so I will let you know if I see any differences.
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Post by mllemass on Jan 18, 2019 20:11:26 GMT
Of course- I meant to say it was 2 hours not one! I’ll change that.
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