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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 20, 2019 13:16:48 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 20, 2019 13:47:15 GMT
The two extra scenes in the HBO version: I’m seeing people discussing if it was right or wrong not included them on the British version. People against them are saying they humanize him but I think that doesn’t change anything because well, he is human! Nowadays it’s common to see people don’t agree with us as monsters but they are human even the ones who are racist, sexist or criminal. Being awful is sadly a big part of being human (A very extreme example but in some ways the most powerful scene of the extremely evil Hugo Weaving’s character in Patrick Melrose was at the end when he cries shamed by his son for what he did. He is extremely vulnerable there and remembering him like that is what freed Patrick because he pity him. In certain way he empathizes with him and see the hell should had been to be him. He mentions this a few time in the book). I haven’t watched them in context so I don’t know how they work within the film but I’m guessing the intention was to make him an even more complex creature. Also they can give sense to the scene of him hearing the British people under the earth. It was a very poetic scene that I can see work on theatre but my interpretation on film was that he was insane and maybe he still is! But it seem his logic was that something big would coming. That he would help the British people to give birth to a big positive change just to discover that it was bullshit. That’s why he doesn’t hear the British people whispers at the end, after the win and after Jo Cox’ murder. He believed his own lies and discovered too late that things weren’t going to change for good AT ALL! We need to see them in context first, of course.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 21, 2019 2:14:00 GMT
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Jan 21, 2019 14:13:12 GMT
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Post by roverpup on Jan 21, 2019 14:13:12 GMT
I don't think this review has been posted... decider.com/2019/01/20/brexit-on-hbo-stream-it-or-skip-it/It made me grimace smile a bit when I saw that they picked the silent scream scene as the "single best shot" of the entire film. Great! One of the ones edited out for non-HBO audiences! Sigh!
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Post by mllemass on Jan 21, 2019 15:01:23 GMT
This review is kind of comical and has the usual complaints about Benedict’s accent and how it’s like watching Sherlock. But this part reminds me about something that James Graham said in an interview: they wouldn’t have been able to make the movie without someone as big as Benedict in it. cherwell.org/2019/01/21/hard-to-be-leave-brexit-the-uncivil-war/
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Jan 21, 2019 18:38:14 GMT
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Post by roverpup on Jan 21, 2019 18:38:14 GMT
This review is kind of comical and has the usual complaints about Benedict’s accent and how it’s like watching Sherlock. But this part reminds me about something that James Graham said in an interview: they wouldn’t have been able to make the movie without someone as big as Benedict in it. cherwell.org/2019/01/21/hard-to-be-leave-brexit-the-uncivil-war/Sorry but I didn't find it comical sounding in the least (unless you meant "comical" in the sense of completely ridiculous). I found it to be insulting, snide and sounding like a childish tantrum. The reviewer makes it sound like BC is a detriment to the film, though. Which is complete nonsense IMO. This part is especially nonsensical;"one is almost never given the sense of Cummings as a real person, for all of Cumberbatch’s fussy method acting, because the shadow the programme does not allow itself to escape is Cumberbatch’s own." So, in other words, Cumberbatch's status of a "big star" bleeds into the role and overtakes the story that you are watching? Rubbish! BC is too talented as an actor to allow this to happen. His portrayal of Cummings is well rounded, subtle and totally without any "star" aura. If he commands centre stage at all it is because he isn't "fussy" - he's committed to the total production and making his character truly three dimensional. That comment makes it sound like he isn't collaborative, but BC is (and always has been) a collegial player who inspires other actors around him to greater heights and makes even smaller productions (like TCiT and this one) seem much bigger. And how insulting to Rory Kinnear, who (although not Hollywood "big") can act toe-to-toe with BC and not stand in anyone's "shadow"! BTW, the reviewer ends the piece with some words about having been left with a "bad taste" in the mouth over the film ... which only confirms to me that sour perception was present in the author of this bitter tome long before he viewed Brexit: The Uncivil War and totally coloured his review.
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Post by ellie on Jan 21, 2019 20:52:55 GMT
Sorry but to partially misquote George V “Bugger Brexit” - where’s the baby? I want to know if it’s a girl. If I don’t hear soon I’m going to have a hissy fit and stamp my foot. So there! ☹️
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Jan 21, 2019 21:28:23 GMT
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Post by roverpup on Jan 21, 2019 21:28:23 GMT
Sorry but to partially misquote George V “Bugger Brexit” - where’s the baby? I want to know if it’s a girl. If I don’t hear soon I’m going to have a hissy fit and stanp my foot. So there! ☹️ Lol! I thinking that we won't find out about it until the registration is made. I imagine that is how the last birth was determined because all the info that came out was very much like the information that could be gleaned from the registry. Don't they have something like 42 days to register the birth? Granted if Ben is interviewed before that he may be asked about it and may answer the question.😊
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Post by ellie on Jan 21, 2019 22:51:08 GMT
True RP. We will just have to wait till they get round to registering. Unfortunately patience is one of the many virtues I did not receive. 😀
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 22, 2019 0:16:30 GMT
Don’t worry for a rare review by a very random site. Most reviews were positive and practically all of them said BC was the standout, The Americans in particular were pretty happy with BC’s performance.
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