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Post by MagdaFR on Mar 3, 2017 18:29:23 GMT
Reading that Awardswatch poll, wow, I didn't know there was a new Daniel Day-Lewis/Paul Thomas Anderson project on the way. The awards fanboys (at least the ones that used to be on IMDb's Movie Awards board - and I don't mean this as an insult to them) must be salivating over it! I personally find them both "overrated" (I know, blasphemy) in many ways - Boogie Nights is great but other than that I haven't been crazy over any PTA feature film, and DDL is technically great but he often leaves me cold. Sorry OT. I liked Magnolia and Inherent Vice very much.
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Post by ellie on Mar 3, 2017 18:38:37 GMT
I think Roverpup, to paraphrase that old quote, you and I are two posters separated by a common language. 😊 Our style of expressing ourselves is quite different. I was being somewhat hyperbolic in saying I " dread" BC making serious films. Of course I don't. What I mean is that I find all the Oscar speculation beginning when he's barely turned up on set quite silly and tedious to read. And I don't think it is particularly helpful to BC to have this level of speculation and expectation at such an early point.
Basically I believe that BC's most fervent supporters are often as potentially damaging as his detractors.
Also, as I said, I have no respect for awards as I think they're nothing more than marketing exercises subject to PR agendas so I could not possibly care less whether BC ever gets an Oscar. Some of the actors I admire the most never won Oscars - Peter O'Toole and Gary Oldman to name just two. And I don't think either of their reputations or recognition of their talent is any the worse for it. On the other hand there's a long list of Oscar winners who were barely ever heard of again.
Personally the only thing I watch from the Oscars is the next day's photos of the dresses.
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Post by igs on Mar 3, 2017 18:41:22 GMT
One of the hates on TIG/BC is because of Weinstein's campaign: "Honor the man, honor the film". Yeah, I actually do totally get the annoyance at that tagline. It's emotionally manipulative in that it says "vote for our film if you don't want it to seem like you disrespect Alan Turing." Respecting Turing has nothing to do with thinking TIG is or isn't the best film of 2014. ETA: Oh yeah, Magnolia is pretty good. But I didn't like Inherent Vice at all.
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Post by coolclearwaters on Mar 3, 2017 19:16:30 GMT
I hated both Magnolia and Inherent Vice. In fact, I hated IV so much it made me vow never to read any Thomas Pynchon. I've also never understood the raves for Boogie Nights.
I did love The Immigrant.
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Post by roverpup on Mar 3, 2017 20:22:58 GMT
I think Roverpup, to paraphrase that old quote, you and I are two posters separated by a common language. 😊 Our style of expressing ourselves is quite different. I was being somewhat hyperbolic in saying I " dread" BC making serious films. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I apologise. :-))
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Post by ellie on Mar 3, 2017 20:28:46 GMT
No need to apologise Roverpup. 😀 You didn't do anything wrong. Our writing styles just differ.
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Post by queenzod on Mar 4, 2017 2:11:35 GMT
OMG I soooo agree with the over investment and speculation around acting accolades for a film that isn't even in the can yet! It could suck bigly. It won't, of course, and Ben will be wonderful, amazing and fabulous, and maybe he'll get an Oscar nom and then everyone will get excited and maybe he'll win (or not) and then everyone will be happy or ticked off. It *is* tedious.
God, I sound so cranky! 😲 Sorry, but let's not start counting our chickens just to make drama. Let's just enjoy whatever ride he takes us on. ☺
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Post by sgev1977 on Mar 4, 2017 16:06:29 GMT
Awardwatch used to have a warning when you registered saying users please don't harass female users. Most of them were/are gay men (according to themselves) but they were indeed very misogynistic.
About BC being "hungry" for awards, I think that idea come from the unstable (ex)fans who were angry because he got married. So it seems it was two fronts, the sexists who think someone or something with a big number of female fans is somehow inferior or at least uninteresting and the small but very vocal untestable group of fans who wanted to affect his reputation and his wife's in any way. In other words, Internet is crazy!
I saw a post recently in the Box Office forum in which someone said BC and Tom Huddleston have lost their "mojo". It was really interesting because both are more popular than ever, for different reasons, with BC having a good number of consecutive financial success (TH probably will have a big hit with Kong after all those award nominations and ratings for his mini-series). So what was that "mojo" they lost? Probably the Tumblr boyfriend "mojo" so the questions are why is that title important? Why someone posting in a box office site think that's more relevant than for example box office success or critical acclaim? More Internet craziness!
So I'm glad he is not the Tumblr boyfriend anymore and as I said in the TV thread glad that his next two adult oriented projects are TV projects and not something award pundits can't put in Oscar pools.
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Post by miriel68 on Mar 4, 2017 20:01:51 GMT
I am so glad it doesn't seem "obligatory" any more for the interviewers to mention "cumberbitches" every single time. This whole internet boy friend thing was doing him more harm than good, IMO.
As for TH, I like him very much and he seems a very nice person and also very good actor. I loved him in Coriolanus and he is very amusing as Loki, but on the whole he has not such a wide range as BC, IMO. But of course he has won Golden Globe for a rather forgettable series (I watched the Night Manager and was surprised to see how cliché it was in spite of TH and Hugh Lurie) while Benedict ended up empty-handed in spite of being nominated twice.
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Post by sgev1977 on Mar 4, 2017 20:59:11 GMT
Perosnal tastes aside, my point is that both actors did the transition from Internet boyfriends to more mainstream stardom and that it is illogical to think that someone would prefer the much more unhealthy Internet celebrity. But it seems there is still people out there thinking the title of Internet boyfriend is relevant!
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