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Post by roverpup on Mar 4, 2017 22:37:03 GMT
I don't think the "internet boyfriend" thing will hurt BC in the long run - he seems to be moving beyond that now (and thankfully the whole cringe worthy "cumberbitches" thing too, which the fans did to themselves, so I am not going to shoot the messenger). I know it isn't completely dead, but as you said, there is far less of it than there was a year ago and as time passes those types of fans will move along to fresher targets.
All that stuff is probably "flotsam and jetsam" really - his work is what will endure and he doesn't seem to have any problem producing plenty of quality material (and the people who count always have taken him very seriously as far as getting work), so that is what the majority of people will remember. And with Sunnymarch he can get into projects that he personally is interested in and even expand his sphere into maybe directing? writing?? Who knows?? :-))
The Night Manager - totally agree with you there. It was a very pedestrian series (while some aspects were quite entertaining, others were almost painful to watch) and not what I would think of as top notch viewing.
I think of something like The Hollow Crown and I still just want to cry that it hasn't been given any recognition (hopefully it will) in the usual run of awards like the Emmys.
It doesn't make it any less - I still think it contains one of the finest performances for BC that I have ever seen.
The only thing that really impressed me with The Night Manager were the opening titles. Those were magnificent and I'm not exaggerating when I say that I was actually looking forward to seeing the opening credits more than seeing the segment of the show proper for the Night Manager.
:-))
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Post by mllemass on Mar 4, 2017 23:40:22 GMT
I still don't understand why PBS waited until after it came out on DVD before they aired it, so that it didn't qualify for the Emmys. It makes me want to cry, too.
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Post by dreamsincolour on Mar 5, 2017 3:01:01 GMT
Back to the comments from someone who's ostensibly seen the script, that was a really interesting thread there from Awardswatch. I have occasionally gone to look at something there, but I don't normally. I also find some of them (too many of them) too petty and spiteful. But it did sound as if that Tyjagi has actually seen the script, in as much as he quoted specific lines, and that does make it sound real (even if one can't see the script oneself to check). And the presumption that BC will ham it up, as repeatedly referred to, was always on the cards. I don't know if people are aware, but Edison was somewhat hard of hearing, so don't be surprised when BC is accused of just putting on any vocal effects of that as part of the supposed hamming up. It was interesting to see the Edison role there seeming to be the main Oscar bait, with Westinghouse supporting, when, in truth, I've rather supposed it was still going to be the other way round. I've mentioned it before on IMDB, but I did see a review of the black list script long ago which specifically said that the story was told from the Westinghouse perspective with the Westinghouse role being the potential Oscar opportunity. So the Awardswatch thread now has me wondering if that guy's perhaps seen a much adapted later version or even the shooting script? The following references don't sound desperately encouraging, but one doesn't know if this this guy is any good at telling what will translate well onto film. His "very odd tone" could be meat and drink to someone with an interesting vision for it. And the best script can still be a "hot mess" if done badly. On the other hand, a poor script really is a pretty impossible hurdle to overcome whoever's in it. Still it's very interesting to see some comments from someone who's actually seen it. The comment of his that slightly concerned me as far as awards potential is concerned, was this one below, because that fits my sight unseen impression of the likely audience appeal. And much as I agree with all the other comments to the effect that awards aren't the "be all and end all" of anything, the good side of being automatically perceived to be a potential Oscar contender is balanced by the greater visibility if the film isn't up to scratch. And personally, as sight unseen completely again, assuming the film is pretty decent, I think Gary Oldman as Churchill might be a tough one to beat.
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Post by sgev1977 on Mar 5, 2017 4:06:37 GMT
If that person think BC "will happen" even if he/she "hates" him I would guess that at least the character is well-written considering that the site is more about cheerleading for their favorites and being nasty about rivals than being objective, esp. at this stage (I mean its not very difficult to predict awards during the actual Oscar season!).
Also how can they even try to be cynical about awards when the forum concept is about perpetuate the stupidity of American movie award system?
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Post by queenzod on Mar 5, 2017 5:41:51 GMT
I think that whole "Tumblr boyfriend" aura still clings to BC, to his detriment. (Says the woman who runs a Tumblr blog filled with pix of Ben and tons of gooshy screaming, lol.)
It does bother me, too, because it's just a way to dismiss female interests and infantilize what women like and what draws their interest. Like men haven't been staring at scantily clad images of women for centuries. Lusting over models and actresses, "French" postcards, men's magazines, etc. But women who like an actor and lust over him are relegated to the social status of giggly 12 year old girls. Kinda irritating.
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Post by miriel68 on Mar 5, 2017 14:07:33 GMT
I think that whole "Tumblr boyfriend" aura still clings to BC, to his detriment. I think so, as well. It certainly hurt his Hamlet, because the British theatre critics were all too ready to dismiss it as celebrity-show-for-fans and newspapers were implying it was done all for stupid females who don't even know who Shakespeare is. Interestingly, the reviews of NT live were FAR more objective and positive. Roverpup, I do agree about opening titles of the Night Manager: they were absolutely stunning, and so was, my disappointment when the show itself didn't deliver. As for the HC - let us see what will Bafta do - will they give BC the seventh nomination only to snub him again? Or will they snub him completely?
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Post by MagdaFR on Mar 5, 2017 14:28:04 GMT
But it did sound as if that Tyjagi has actually seen the script, in as much as he quoted specific lines, and that does make it sound real (even if one can't see the script oneself to check). I messaged him asking for the script but he didn't answer. He is also a member of the MA new board. It was interesting to see the Edison role there seeming to be the main Oscar bait, with Westinghouse supporting, when, in truth, I've rather supposed it was still going to be the other way round. I've mentioned it before on IMDB, but I did see a review of the black list script long ago which specifically said that the story was told from the Westinghouse perspective with the Westinghouse role being the potential Oscar opportunity. I remember your post from Imdb about the comments on the script. Do you happen to have the link? If I remember correctly it was mentioned between the comments of other script. I think it was also assumed that Westinghouse was the lead character because the original cast of Jake Gyllenhaal?
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Post by MagdaFR on Mar 5, 2017 14:31:00 GMT
And personally, as sight unseen completely again, assuming the film is pretty decent, I think Gary Oldman as Churchill might be a tough one to beat. I agree. He's sure going to give a great performance.
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Post by queenzod on Mar 5, 2017 21:43:53 GMT
Gary Oldman is GOD! I've adored him for decades. 😍
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Post by coolclearwaters on Mar 7, 2017 3:20:19 GMT
Any news on whether TCW is still filming? Weren't they supposed to have wrapped by now? I thought that Marvel movie was supposed to start filming in Scotland at least a week ago I think there were also rumors that The Child In Time is going to start filming this month.
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