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Post by queenzod on Apr 15, 2019 19:27:10 GMT
Omg this is terrible! It’s burning to the ground.
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Post by roverpup on Apr 15, 2019 20:43:10 GMT
It makes me very sad to see this. Dan and I have visited Paris many times and Notre Dame is one of my favourite places to go through. When we rented an apartment there a few years back it was a very short walk from the cathedral. Beautiful example of early gothic architecture. Even as an atheist I loved being in the presence of such an iconic structure that was a testament to the faith of others. Hopefully they will be able to restore it in some fashion.
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Post by queenzod on Apr 15, 2019 22:24:43 GMT
It’s awful. But it looks like they’re getting a handle on it and Macron has said they’ll rebuild. The loss of those rose windows alone are a tragedy!
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 15, 2019 22:36:45 GMT
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Post by roverpup on Apr 16, 2019 11:56:47 GMT
It’s awful. But it looks like they’re getting a handle on it and Macron has said they’ll rebuild. The loss of those rose windows alone are a tragedy! I just read this morning in the Evening Standard, quoting the official Notre Dame spokesperson, that all three rose windows were saved. Hopefully, even though the damage is extensive, this news holds up. I have such fond memories of the cathedral and its environs going back many, many years. |
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Post by ellie on Apr 16, 2019 11:57:06 GMT
Thank goodness the damage is not extensive and that nobody lost their life. I really hope the fire wasn’t started deliberately.
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 16, 2019 12:04:35 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 16, 2019 12:18:31 GMT
It seems it was an accident.
I have read some crazy reactions on Twitter. From conspiracy theories to SJW thinking it's a rightful punishment to the West and Catholicism.It puts things in perspective of how sick social media is. I'm wondering now if the destruction of the giant Buddhas in Bamiyan would be celebrated today by those kind of fools! Anyway they surely are just a few and very insignificant in more than one way but it's crazy how social media make seem their voices are bigger than they are.
And the way people try to police what people think or say, I was happy when I saw the Tweet above but the comments below is mostly people criticizing the journalist for using the word "miracle"! I'm not a religious person but I would never be so condescending to tell someone which words should use. It's not so extreme like the other cases but still an example of how awful Twitter can be.
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Post by ellie on Apr 16, 2019 14:01:41 GMT
It seems it was an accident. I have read some crazy reactions on Twitter. From conspiracy theories to SJW thinking it's a rightful punishment to the West and Catholicism.It puts things in perspective of how sick social media is. I'm wondering now if the destruction of the giant Buddhas in Bamiyan would be celebrated today by those kind of fools! Anyway they surely are just a few and very insignificant in more than one way but it's crazy how social media make seem their voices are bigger than they are. And the way people try to police what people think or say, I was happy when I saw the Tweet above but the comments below is mostly people criticizing the journalist for using the word "miracle"! I'm not a religious person but I would never be so condescending to tell someone which words should use. It's not so extreme like the other cases but still an example of how awful Twitter can be. I’m nearly finished reading the new brilliant novel by Ben Elton. It’s called “Identity Crisis” and it’s about just that topic - the pervasiveness and undue influence of social media and how it’s manipulated by organizations with various agendas. It’s a very funny read but also scary and thought provoking as to the really sinister potential of third parties tapping into the fears and prejudices of social media users to get them to think and act in a certain way. We’ve already seen proof of it with the Brexit referendum but that’s just the tip of the ice berg. |
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Post by mllemass on Apr 16, 2019 15:27:41 GMT
One thing that stands out for me from my studies of Art History is that art and architecture can endure all kinds of abuse and still remain intact! I remember being astounded when I first learned that the statue of David stood outdoors for more than 300 years before someone decided to move it indoors to protect it. A copy replaced it outdoors, and it’s identical to the original indoors. It was breathtaking to finally see it in person! I had my picture taken with the copy because photographs weren’t allowed indoors.
I remember our professors telling us that marble is actually a soft stone, so it wasn’t uncommon for sculptors to accidentally knock of fingers or noses on statues. And without crazy glue on hand, they had to be creative in finding ways to work their accidents into their sculptures. Notre Dame has been around for 400 years longer than David, so I’m pretty sure it has already survived fire and other destruction many times before. Don’t forget that it was only recently that electricity and central heating replaced candles and fireplaces in buildings! Smoke alone causes lots of damage in artwork and ceilings of churches, and cleaning and restoration is an ongoing process because churches still use candles!
Also, I can understand the use of “miracle” to describe the relatively limited damage. But I believe that there was a time when buildings were meant to stand forever. I look around me and wonder if any of the buildings I see will be around in 800 years. I doubt it. We kind of expect that everything eventually falls down or gets torn down to be replaced by something more modern. So it seems to be a miracle when that doesn’t happen!
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