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Post by sgev1977 on May 16, 2022 13:19:30 GMT
Of course, it's not! I'm convinced it could had made more if the reviews were better although the horror factor was still there and Marvel movies are always front loaded but the numbers are still massive!
Twitter is dumb and they don't know what they are talking about if the think Disney is sad with these numbers!
Slightly OT but this tweet was promoted to me,
I don't know if it's a general list or only Latin America but it seems a lot of people are watching the original DS
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Post by mllemass on May 16, 2022 13:23:50 GMT
I don’t think they did anything wrong with his Doctor Strange character or the stories involving the other characters. For me, the problem with the movie is too much Wanda, because I just don’t think it was necessary. Or helpful. Or all that interesting. Imagine if they had made the first Doctor Strange movie with lots more scenes of Kaecilius! The scenes with him were great, but I wouldn’t have wanted more of them.
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Post by llminnowpea on May 16, 2022 14:27:05 GMT
Folks on Twitter have pointed out that the drop off is comparable to that of SM: NWH, and is less than the drop off for Black Widow. So, it’s not all doom and gloom for our Doctor. Besides, it’s likely to finish with close to 3/4 of a BILLION dollars. I mean c’mon. That’s not too bad. Apparently, according to the more vocal MCU fans, this is downright horrible. Like, it means the movie was a total flop and that it is destined to be forgotten and reviled like Thor: Dark World (except everyone talks about Dark World all the time, sooooo....). I hate wishing my life away, but I can't wait for Thursday, so I can settle for myself, once and for all, how this movie is. Since I am a hard core Evil Dead fan, I can't wait to see what Raimi has done with Zombie Strange. I am also known to happily sit all evening with fellow horror fans and randomly choose the hokiest horror movies on Shudder and laugh all the way through them, so, honestly, I just can't wait. I mean, nothing, NOTHING, can compare to that movie about the meth head who found some weird videotapes that showed some weird cult and that horror movie became a trilogy, I think. I watched them all, folks. All of them. Or, that indie Canadian horror movie about people injecting the blood/DNA of celebrities. Or, the sci-fi horror one about the Egyptian gods with the really shitty CGI and really awful TW-needed storyline. So weird. So terribad.
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Post by sgev1977 on May 16, 2022 14:40:52 GMT
There are a lot of deluded people on social media. They mostly have agendas, too. I'm sure they are championing other movies and/or actors.
It could had made more with better reviews? Probably! But it's still a huge number. It will easily do more that The Batman, for example. And that movie had more positive reviews.
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Post by mllemass on May 16, 2022 15:10:44 GMT
During the credits at the end of the movie, I asked my friend whether she would consider it to be a horror movie. She said no, and was puzzled by my question. Could that maybe be the reason for some of the negative reviews? Were people expecting a horror/scary movie and left disappointed?
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Post by queenzod on May 16, 2022 16:03:15 GMT
I haven’t seen it yet and wont until it comes out on Disney+, but it seemed to disappoint people on a number of levels. Too much Wanda, not enough Wanda, too scary, not scary enough, not enough cameos (no Tom Cruise??), writing bad, writing fine, not enough Strange (as if 4 or 5 different variants isn’t enough), why isn’t Mordo the big bad (or someone from the comics like Nightmare)?
Like other movies BC has made some people just didn’t get it. Or, again, fanfolks have gotten their knickers in a twist about what they *wanted* to see because they’re experts on filmmaking and could have done oh, so much better. It’s like when the invasion of Ukraine started and all these people on Twitter suddenly changed from being expert epidemiologists to expert field commanders, lol.
Each to their own, I suppose. 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by sgev1977 on May 16, 2022 16:45:25 GMT
I haven't watched it but the reviews were indeed mixed and it received a B+ Cinema score whhen Marvel movies usually receive A and A+. Although horror flicks normally don't do well with it and frequently they receive C's and still are successful.
Also apparently more adult oriented superhero movies aren't so massive like more kiddies friendly ones. They still are, sometimes, massive like this one is!
Why it wasn't so liked like, for example, Spider-Man?(a record breaking movie, by the way!) I don't know. Critics mentioned the script but with general audiences it was probably that it was slightly scary. Whatever it was, Twitter discourse most probably is wrong! Twitter is one of the smallest social media sites and people screaming louder are usually just a small group of fanatics insecure about their opinions.
But again, the numbers are huge. It maybe had the potential of breaking records with positive reviews (or more dumb cameos?) but there's nothing to lament here.
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Post by Hannah Lee on May 16, 2022 17:24:23 GMT
The only review I’ve gotten from someone I know IRL was from my nephew who is 16. He liked it but thought parts of it were too intense.
He loves most of the Marvel stuff, but he and his friends aren’t really into horror or gore stuff like some teens are. I haven’t had a chance to talk to him in detail about it, and likely won’t until I’ve seen it. But his take kind of fits the bits and pieces I’ve heard and what you all are saying here.
My sense is that Marvel/Disney/Feige know what kind of film they were putting out. If they wanted DS2 to be more mainstream core MCU style, that’s what they would have made. And likely Raimi wouldn’t have been who they tapped to direct it. Feige said before how they wanted to have different MCU properties feel like different genres within the overall MCU (heist movies, Buddy cop movies, comedies, westerns, whatever the first 2 Thors were, etc) and this sounds like that* was an expression of that intent.
* I will never see or hear that phrase without imagining BC and Heidi Gardner waxing poetic and nostalgic about ice cream.
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Post by sgev1977 on May 16, 2022 17:44:11 GMT
Also the numbers on the box office are until now very close to Disney projections. They never said $200 for the first weekend but $180 and they actually went lower for the second Friday (we will see what happens with today's actuals for the second weekend) so if someone is sincerely disappointed then it's their own fantasies.
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Post by llminnowpea on May 16, 2022 21:22:17 GMT
so if someone is sincerely disappointed then it's their own fantasies. Speaking of...I wrote a long, long soliloquy on the horror movie genre, but didn't post it because it feels like all I do is rant and rave lately. If anyone wants to read it, take a gander below the spoiler (there isn't anything that spoils anything, but it looks like a long tl;dr rant, so I am hiding it). Welp. Nevermind. Time for an internet break. Can't take the shitting all over a movie like this. I was trying so hard not to let others crap up my experience and I have now failed. WTF.
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