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Post by MagdaFR on Feb 6, 2017 3:06:55 GMT
Mark Gatiss interviewThe TJLC people don't stop harassing Gatiss. What are they looking for? They are not going to change anything.
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Post by roverpup on Feb 6, 2017 5:30:37 GMT
I don't think they are looking for anything really. They are just in a blind rage because they know in their heart of hearts they brought this on themselves by just refusing to listen to what the writers told them over and over and over again.
Just look at the pattern of their replies. Indignation and outrage (at the fact that they didn't get what they wanted), then turning on M&G and saying that they are crap writers (because they didn't write the story exactly the way TJLC wanted it written), then turning on the rest of the cast and crew (when they realised that M&G weren't going to fall all over them and beg forgiveness for upsetting the fans of JL), then attacking the BBC (because they didn't any support for the supposed queer representation campaign that they dreamed up to try and widen their dashed fanfic dreams), and now, when more and more people are cluing into the fact that their vengeful smear tactics are just cloaking their butt-hurt TJLC imaginings, they are trying to act like they represent the whole fandom done wrong by the big, bad writers. They are flaying away like a drowning person clutching for a life preserver, trying desperately to rally some wider support when none is in sight.
Just like John kicking Sherlock, the JLers are lashing out at M&G because they are really disappointed in themselves. Kicking at M&G won't solve anything for them, and in the end it won't make them feel better. Only looking into themselves will do that and facing reality. Just like John finally realised at the end of TLD - recognise that "it is what it is". And then move on with your life. And bravo to Mark Gatiss for saying what he did in the interview clip - every writer should live by those words! And anyone who says differently is just not being honest (and that includes all those "fans" who say otherwise).
:-))
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Post by susanhex1 on Feb 25, 2017 23:27:10 GMT
I would love a new series called, Mycroft. They could use parts of the last cast. I always thought Mycroft was leading this extraordinary life outside our view. And he's a bit suave, reminds me of the old series character, John Steed.
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Post by alarson on Feb 26, 2017 6:42:54 GMT
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Post by queenzod on Feb 26, 2017 6:45:51 GMT
Oh my god I'm so disgusted. Pardon my rant!
I just found out that the "Norbury" crowd (aka the idiotic tjlc-era) are going to start something on Twitter Sunday afternoon to prove that the BBC is queerbaiting, that women are getting misrepresented, and that the writing was so sloppy that....I don't know what they want. They claim to be representing the entire Sherlock fandom. I don't want to be thought of in that same group of people. They're childish, entitled, whingers. And all because their ship didn't sail, although you can't get them to admit that. They think if they scream loud enough something different will happen? I'm so tired of that group and their incessant ridiculousness.
Ffs, it's a tv show! It's light entertainment!
Anyway, beware the tag norbury tomorrow if you're tweeting. Thank you for listening.
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Post by MagdaFR on Feb 26, 2017 10:21:42 GMT
alarson Not all the johnlockers are like this. They are probably Tjlcers. I don't know what they want. Yes, that's what I asked before. It is more than a month since TFP aired and the're still on it. They claim to be representing the entire Sherlock fandom. Their posts have like 1500 notes at the most. They don't get to a thousand. They're childish, entitled, whingers. Absolutely. the other day one of them was congratulating herself because she was blocked by Mark Gatiss on twitter. And all because their ship didn't sail, although you can't get them to admit that. Yes, there are many people who wasn't thrilled by season 4 but all these complaints almost strictly pointing to TFP are from Johnlockers and TJLCers. There was a poster on the Imdb Sherlock board who tried to sound very rational and never mentioned Johnlock, only rant against TFP but her tumblr has Norbury as title and she re twitted all the hate against Gatiss.
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Post by ellie on Feb 26, 2017 11:01:26 GMT
Like the BC marriage "skeptics", I think the extreme "johnlockers" are not the full shilling as we say in Ireland. Because really, with all that's going on in the world, to be THAT overinvested in a TV show about fictional characters is totally bizarre.
So like the BC/SH skeptics, trying to engage in any sort of argument with them is pointless because these are people who are incapable of engaging with relality. By far the best thing is to totally ignore them because acknowledging their "viewpoints" in any way is to give them credence and attention they simply do not merit.
Mark Gattis not giving a monkeys what they say is exactly the right response in my opinion.
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Post by roverpup on Feb 26, 2017 15:49:11 GMT
Feb 26, 2017 5:21:42 GMT -5 MagdaFR said:That may well be Magda, but I think it is fair to say that all TJLCers are Johnlockers, so when Alarson said "idiot Johnlockers" that was accurate (seeing how the Johnlockers who are idiots are TJLCers). Something I don't quite understand - why are they mounting this harassment against the BBC on Sunday? Why that day specifically? Is Sunday somehow significant to them? Or they think it is significant to the BBC? Even with getting used to all the stupidity that they wallow in constantly, I don't get that at all. Magda continued: I have said that in the past - the JLers who have taken to harassing the BBC, M&G, and the cast and crew of Sherlock (TJLCers in other words) are just trying to mask their butthurt about not getting their "ship" as canon in the last episode. They are purposely disguising it as general dissatisfaction with the writing of M&G, pandering to the gay representation issue folks, talking up a storm about the unfair treatment of women characters on the show and even going so far as to suggest that issues of family abuse are being promoted on the show - all in an effort to widen their "audience" of receptive people who might join their "cause". It's a strategy that the BC/SH marriage haters have used to great effect to garner more suckers into their fold - except they have hooked on to naive people with the line that SH is an abuser of BC because she is a narcissistic personality who has entrapped him to gain financially from him. So if you really love BC then of course you don't want to see him abused and destroyed by this "degenerate" NPD woman! Their blogs are filled with positive messages about loving, and finding true relationships, and how to spot abusers and how to recognise when a narcissist is trying to manipulate you! Anything but about what they are really upset about - the fact that BC married someone that they don't approve of (because they really thought that he would marry someone just like them!). Just like TJLCers - they only have the gay representation issue at heart! They want equality for women! They don't want to see spousal abuse promoted! They want "quality" writing shown!!! Join their noble campaign! It isn't just about a silly "ship"! It is about a worthy cause! It is disgusting how these types highjack worthy causes and try to fold their own immature, revengeful, hateful feelings into them to get more followers. And while I don't think speaking out against them will ever make them go away (and ignoring them won't either), I do think it is important that people do identify them as the creepy, vile things that they are. They shouldn't be allowed to spread their lies and misappropriations of the facts without some opposition. So bravo to MG for not giving a "monkeys" about the wankers, and bravo to BC for calling out the obsessive, scary delusional behaviour of people who say his marriage and child is PR. Fight back and don't let those types of nobs take over the conversation. :-))
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Post by alarson on Feb 26, 2017 19:50:33 GMT
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Post by roverpup on Feb 27, 2017 0:16:12 GMT
Yes, that site is a dose of reality for sure! :-))
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