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Poison
Sept 27, 2023 10:31:51 GMT
Post by sgev1977 on Sept 27, 2023 10:31:51 GMT
I Guess it should has, at least, its own thread,
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Poison
Sept 27, 2023 10:32:13 GMT
Post by sgev1977 on Sept 27, 2023 10:32:13 GMT
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Poison
Sept 28, 2023 10:21:08 GMT
Post by sgev1977 on Sept 28, 2023 10:21:08 GMT
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Poison
Sept 28, 2023 10:32:25 GMT
Post by sgev1977 on Sept 28, 2023 10:32:25 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Sept 30, 2023 11:27:50 GMT
It’s Saturday so this time I watched it very early! I love how the sets are the totally opposite of Harry Sugar and what people quickly relate to Anderson: they are very austere and humble. They are still using theatrical tricks and narration but there is 0 exuberance this time.
TBH Dev Patel’s narration bothers me a little here. He is doing almost exactly the same here that he did in “Henry Sugar” but I would preferred a less comical and slightly more paused tone. The other actors were more paused in the other shorts so it wasn’t something Anderson’s was against of. I understand why he was accelerated in “Henry Sugar”. He was very good playing a “ flabbergasted” man there but this time he should be scared, anxious and, at the end, horrified. Well, he was “flabbergasted” and accelerated all the time! He had the advantage that his two narrators/characters were doing the narration in first person so he had space for some acting like first person narrators frequently do in Anderson movies but again, he seemed still playing the doctor in “Henry Sugar”
It’s ironic because BC performance was obviously the total opposite. Because the situation he was obligated to mostly act with all the muscles of his face and eyes and well, he is brilliant! I’m a fan, of course I would say that! (I’m almost ashamed of all the praise I’m thinking on! Lol) There was nothing theatrical about his performance this time (contrary to Henry Sugar), even when he was doing a “theatrical” film and all the tension comes from him and, later on, from him and Ben Kingsley. Of course, Kingsley is great suggesting pride, shame and disappointment. If only, Patel (who still looks like a teenager! He is another Timmy Chalamet!) would had been slightly more serious! And I can imagine people thinking that’s Wes Anderson but there is method in Anderson and he totally let his actors inject feelings in their deadpan delivery. Just see Ruperto Friend in The Swan!
Anyway, I knew they will go dark and darker and that they will end in shock like the Vulture review already said yesterday (in part, because I knew the stories!). That, apart of the admiration, there is some criticism of Anderson toward Dahl just by simple decision of finishing the series of shorts with Poison. It’s brutal! Hopefully, people and critics watch them and understand it! Anderson isn’t the naive sweet filmmaker who only do pretty stuff that his critics, and some admirers, think he is.
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Poison
Sept 30, 2023 12:41:45 GMT
Post by sgev1977 on Sept 30, 2023 12:41:45 GMT
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Poison
Sept 30, 2023 13:44:20 GMT
Post by sgev1977 on Sept 30, 2023 13:44:20 GMT
x.com/kevinlaforest/status/1708110981082026176?s=61&t=zPi8LNXgo1ojcMDphmjG3gThe comparison with Brian De Palma! His tweet about Henry Sugar says it’s more theatrical than cinematographic but they are all both! There is this disregard for theatre and literature by some movie fanatics that apparently misunderstood the New Wave (I’m seeing you, Tarantino!) that a lot of people think on them as opposed and incompatible but Anderson shows that’s not true with these shorts.
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Poison
Oct 1, 2023 13:26:43 GMT
Post by sgev1977 on Oct 1, 2023 13:26:43 GMT
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Poison
Oct 1, 2023 14:19:29 GMT
Post by queenzod on Oct 1, 2023 14:19:29 GMT
Poison was a tough watch for me, but not as bad as The Swan! The tension was killing me even though I knew there was no snake. Just the idea of it was enough to give me the creeps. I agree, in part, to what you were saying, sgev, about Dev’s performance being a bit over the top. If he had started calmer and stepped it up after he entered the room and found out about the snake it would have been more understandable, I think. Or maybe he was just a high strung person and didn’t handle stress very well? I also got a little tired of him turning around to narrate to the camera. I could have used 50% less of that. But the little spritz of water on Kingsley’s forehead by the crew member was perfect.
Ben was amazing - the look of sheer terror on his face was incredible. I’ve never seen that expression on him before. And of course how awful of him to start spewing racist garbage (the real poison), at the end, after jumping up so quickly. (Really quickly, lol. How does he move so fast?)
I’ve seen a few comments on why does Wes have to adapt Dahl’s work - after all, the man was a racist Nazi with no redeemable qualities whatsoever, or so they say. Apparently he wasn’t even a good writer, lol.
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Post by sgev1977 on Oct 1, 2023 16:46:42 GMT
Someone was saying that Patel maintained the tension but it’s the total opposite for me. He said his lines so quickly and comical that he actually distracted from the tense situation! The tone was useful in “Henry Sugar” but affected this short. The thing is he clearly has a lot of fans on Film Twitter and they are convinced he is the best actor ever!!! And the most sexy but like Timmy Chalamet, he is just a kid! Lol A 30 something kid! It was funny when Ben Kingsley played a 20 something and “a young” croupier and when BC did that segment dressed like a lady and like a Texan guy with a big belly but somehow the most unrealistic scene was Patel dressed like an old man! Lol He is one of those eternal teenagers, doesn’t? His fans should be pretty young or perverts to thing he is sexy! I just saw this, x.com/benmsmith/status/1708515542217134469?s=61&t=zPi8LNXgo1ojcMDphmjG3gI agreed with the Vulture review that it was brilliant of Anderson to ending the series with this one because he ends what it looks like a long homage with a “surprising” racist tirade! He couldn’t be more obvious but even “obviousness” is difficult for activists who think the only answer to complex and problematic artists is censure. That’s the issue! Obviously, they will not make Dahl nor man like Dahl nor racism to disappear. They actually tend to make things worse! Because instead fighting real racism, they fight for obliviousness of the past. That will always end bad!
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