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Post by miriel68 on Sept 10, 2017 8:31:17 GMT
Guardian's review - not that bad, but rather tepid - I do prefer when they hate Benedict, because it's usually means the film is very good: when it isn't they are more graceful. review
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Post by roverpup on Sept 10, 2017 9:45:34 GMT
A BIG, BIG "thank you" Mllemass for your honest and yet enthusiastic report about the premiere. It's nice to hear from someone who has actually seen the film and who appreciates BC and the movies he does as much as I do. I am glad you enjoyed the film too!
Despite some of the negativity about this movie (and some of his other films and trailers), I am looking forward to seeing this for myself when the wider release comes out.
:-))
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Post by roverpup on Sept 10, 2017 9:53:06 GMT
Could be people leaving coz of the animals electroshock. Come on, you KNOW it's because of SOPHIE and the showmance!!! 😝🤣 :-))
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Post by kreizimam on Sept 10, 2017 10:42:27 GMT
I agree broadly with what everybody was saying here: 1. Still gonna see it. 2. Possibly style over substance, but I'll judge it myself. 3. So what if it's bad. Won't effect much on BC, and he's hardly the only actor with stinker(s). It's definetely not as bad as TFE (I don't remember any positive tweet on that one). And I don't think it's the worst of TIFF (shut up, Erlich!). I know a Alicia Vikander and eva Green movie got worse reception than TCW.
And thanks for the report, Mmlemass
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Post by coolclearwaters on Sept 10, 2017 10:50:08 GMT
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Post by miriel68 on Sept 10, 2017 11:18:24 GMT
I don't think TFE was that bad, even if it has been a disastrous flop: B. shone in the role of JA and was completely transformed. I suppose the worst problem with this film could be that it is just average, not giving B. enough material to show his full potential - like it happened in BM (of course, he was just supporting character there). The only film with B. in it I haven't seen was Zoolander II (he was a genius in his 1 minute scene, though) so of course, I am going to see it, no matter what the reviews say.
Thank you, mllemass for the first impressions, waiting for more!
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Post by sgev1977 on Sept 10, 2017 11:35:29 GMT
Yes, I just wake up and reading the very few reviews (I was hoping there were more actual reviews that stupid Twitter reactions by mini-critics, for the short of the reviews, of course 😉 but I ended reading those, too!). It's very mixed but believe me it's not TFE and that's good!!! They are nice with the actors but not with poor Alfonso Gomez-Rejón how I feared in the worst case scenario. I really felt for him! He is good with technique but he is always working for a vision of someone else. It's not *his* material and I'm not talking about him being the writer but there is something (Richard Brody felt the same with his last movie) and I thought it was because he worked for a powerful TV producer and adapted a popular teen book with the novelist script and somehow he was influenced too much by those men. It seems it happened the same here with Weinstein. Some people are saying the visual aspect is actually too much, others that the narrative is too conventional.
Also two things, one fan said the script is almost totally changed (just 20% of the one we read) and Gomez-Rejón actually said in the presentation that there are edits to do so surprisingly (or not considering it's Weinstein), is not a finished product!!! It doesn't mean it would change and people will love it but that maybe the producer were hurrying the movie, probably because the suddenly change of the date! That could explain why it wasn't included in more festivals (that and apparently because it's not enough good).
The good thing is that there are more chances that Weinstein will let BC do his work for Patrick Melrose without calling him to do some random event in LA. I hope!
Also we need a super great movie with him in the main role (his best are still in supporting characters or TV series/movies and I'm not ever thinking in Sherlock) and he need to work with a great director so I really hope for the Guadagnino movie. A great director even when it's not great it's good!
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Post by MagdaFR on Sept 10, 2017 12:20:36 GMT
Guardian's review - not that bad, but rather tepid - I do prefer when they hate Benedict, because it's usually means the film is very good: when it isn't they are more graceful. reviewI brought the review to this new thread. So it is not that bad, I agree.
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Post by sgev1977 on Sept 10, 2017 12:50:23 GMT
The Gonzales Iñárritu comparison is interesting because I have always think he is style over substance! Maybe Gomez-Rejón, his protege, should choose a darker theme with cartoonish but sordid characters and he will be acclaimed as a great filmmaker!
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Post by MagdaFR on Sept 10, 2017 13:06:05 GMT
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