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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 6, 2019 4:01:05 GMT
This article is making rounds on Twitter:
It's so bad that I'm not even sure what was the intention: Is it satire? They just wanted to provoke a reaction to gain easy clicks (as "the women don't understand The Goodfellas" piece from a few years ago) ? Anyway Film Twitter is destroying the author and I actually feel bad for her. The question is (if it's not a joke) why the editors permitted something like this? They are exposing a young author to humiliation when their actual work is guide them to do better. Having said that.... It seems she really thinks people in the late 80s and early 90s didn't went to jail for killing jocks! Why (some not everyone) young people seem to think we all were violent savages before they born? You actually need certain level of intelligence to understand satire! EDITED If that's the case why adults don't do their work and explain things to kids? Editors shouldn't have published that and it's kind of worrying that someone thought it was. |
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Post by onebluestocking on Apr 6, 2019 5:47:38 GMT
To be fair, 'Heathers' came out a decade before the Columbine shooting and the many, many school shootings since. There is no way for a young person today to view it the same way as it was seen back in the day.
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Post by queenzod on Apr 6, 2019 5:59:53 GMT
“I think this article demands a trigger warning about how offensively stupid it is.” (In the comments section) lol!
Well, the comments sure tore him a new one. It was very apparent that the author has no idea what satire or black comedy is, or maybe even lacks a sense of humor at all. Black comedy isn’t for everyone (I have to be in the right frame of mind or it’s just too cruel and upsetting), but jeez. I hope this person doesn’t go into film criticism for another 35 years or so, or until he gets some more life experience and learns about different types of humor.
Part of the problem is that 24 year olds think they know everything and are actually very rigid in their beliefs. It’s hard to teach them b/c they have Black & White thinking and a limited ability to think abstractly (that part of brain development doesn’t arise until the late 20s). Also, their life experience is pretty small so there just isn’t that much to work with. Obviously, not all young adults are like that, but a great many are.
What I find most concerning is this reluctance to experience discomfort, which is where much learning stems from. If all they want is likes on Twitter to make them feel better, they’re going to find certain realities of life very disturbing, with no way to temper it or absorb it into their psyches.
When I was in high school it was the early 70s, and we had riots, people got knifed and beat up, classrooms got trashed, chairs thrown through windows, trash cans set on fire. I almost got crushed in a stampede once. They often had to close the school b/c of the rioting. It was scary.
So I understand how scared they must be with the school shootings, and how their first urge is to hide to protect themselves. But they’ve extended this protection into what borders on pathology, to try to insure that nothing will ever upset them. You can’t go through life like that.
We’re letting this generation down.
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 6, 2019 13:16:22 GMT
To be fair, 'Heathers' came out a decade before the Columbine shooting and the many, many school shootings since. There is no way for a young person today to view it the same way as it was seen back in the day. I think school shootings with huge numbers of deaths become more common news after Columbine (although the horrible one in Austin in the 60s was still very present in the American conscience then. I remember there were a lot of references in popular culture at the time) but interesting enough a journalist posted some official statistics on Twitter and violence between teenagers and suicide were much more higher then. In certain way the film was responding to them. I agreed with the people who said the experience of watching it then and now should be of horror. So IMO she is completely misunderstanding that. Somehow she thinks we thought then that it was just good fun. As someone said in the comments, it's a cult film that bombed when it was released in good part because general audiences were shocked by it. They as her preferred John Hughes. |
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 6, 2019 13:42:25 GMT
“I think this article demands a trigger warning about how offensively stupid it is.” (In the comments section) lol! Well, the comments sure tore him a new one. It was very apparent that the author has no idea what satire or black comedy is, or maybe even lacks a sense of humor at all. Black comedy isn’t for everyone (I have to be in the right frame of mind or it’s just too cruel and upsetting), but jeez. I hope this person doesn’t go into film criticism for another 35 years or so, or until he gets some more life experience and learns about different types of humor. Part of the problem is that 24 year olds think they know everything and are actually very rigid in their beliefs. It’s hard to teach them b/c they have Black & White thinking and a limited ability to think abstractly (that part of brain development doesn’t arise until the late 20s). Also, their life experience is pretty small so there just isn’t that much to work with. Obviously, not all young adults are like that, but a great many are. What I find most concerning is this reluctance to experience discomfort, which is where much learning stems from. If all they want is likes on Twitter to make them feel better, they’re going to find certain realities of life very disturbing, with no way to temper it or absorb it into their psyches. When I was in high school it was the early 70s, and we had riots, people got knifed and beat up, classrooms got trashed, chairs thrown through windows, trash cans set on fire. I almost got crushed in a stampede once. They often had to close the school b/c of the rioting. It was scary. So I understand how scared they must be with the school shootings, and how their first urge is to hide to protect themselves. But they’ve extended this protection into what borders on pathology, to try to insure that nothing will ever upset them. You can’t go through life like that. We’re letting this generation down. We were all self-righteous idiots at that age but it's worrying how adults are exhibiting this new generation in this way. I guess it's in big part because it works with the clicks but it's awful! Also it doesn't help to the prospect of good film criticism for the future! (I'm sure there are better prepared and more intelligent young film critics out there but these kind is the ones that are giving the opportunities because their original and woke takes) The part about the likes and comments on Twitter it is so tragic! |
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 6, 2019 15:05:35 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 6, 2019 21:43:15 GMT
The other day I saw a tweet by some verified random (I don't know who she was!) on BC's tag, saying she hated Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy because it was boring and didn't understand why critics were saying it was great. Fair! The thing that was not fair was a guy "predicting" a lot of guys will 'gaslighting' her trying to explain her why she didn't understood it!
In other words, you can't have a normal conversations about movies with some woke people because somehow you are discriminating them! Even when their opinions are contrarian and would be fair to ask their reasons for not agree with the consensus. Well I'm woman and it sounded to me she didn't understand the film. Am I gaslighting her, too?
The reason it was on BC's tag was because another guy answered to that guy saying he won't say that to her but that he loved the movie in part because BC's performance was beautiful and sad and that wasn't included in the book.
That was just a convo on social media but there have been crazy articles before, I remember an article claiming Lawrence of Arabia was bad because it didn't have women in it! Film Twitter, which it's actually kind of depressingly woke some times, was also angry at the author, too. You can have stupid woke opinions but never NEVER dare to attack the classics, I guess.
In the theme of war movies, I also saw someone moaning on Reddit because the announced cast of 1917 was almost all men and white (there is a woman and one POC there). People tried to explain him/her that probably it would be about the trenches and there weren't women fighting in the trenches but that "excuse" wasn't accepted! They are just tired of see men's stories on screen and want more women's stories. They are also ignoring that the film is co-written by a woman of course! The same with TTSS, by the way! It was idea of the female writer to change Peter's sexuality and the early and very cruel scene in which a mother is killed while feeding her baby. Both were brilliant choices.
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Post by queenzod on Apr 6, 2019 22:55:13 GMT
Woke culture is so depressing. It reminds me of the Johnlockers in its adamantcy. There’s something so righteous and irritating about the way they proclaim things. “Show me a het explanation for THIS” as they post a picture of the guys merely looking at each other. And then call you a homophobe if you disagree. So aggravating.
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 7, 2019 0:15:30 GMT
TBH I think the source is the same: Tumblr (and social media in general) and the blame is again on adults that take outrageous statements made by kids seriously and doesn't dare to challenge them.
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