Post by dreamsincolour on Feb 28, 2017 0:05:49 GMT
It does make sense that the Chinese would be looking to distribute TCW. I'm not terribly sure what the significance is of their coming in early, though, so much, except as the indicator of confidence in the product as mentioned. It might be more than that though.
And while this isn't "news" as such, I noticed this posted up on the HSX board. 2018 (!) Oscar predictions from "The Hollywood Reporter" already. I don't think it's even the first of its like I've seen, but it's including TCW already again. A bit over-presumptive yet, but it's nice to see such positive presumptions. The film itself only has to live up to everything that's expected of it now (lol).
Indiwire use to do very early Oscar predictions. It's really silly but also logic if we consider all those blogs, forums and pundits whose speciality is to predict awards and nothing more. Ironically it seems the Oscar are less and less popular every year.
I hope TCW does get an Oscar nom, but saying that I also have to say that predictions at this stage seem really, really silly.
So many factors go into a movie (it is a very collaborative endeavour) that it just seems pointless to determine a list of Oscar noms this early in the game. You can have a wonderfully talented cast, a director with a great track record, a budget big enough to makes some movie magic, a dedicated producer who works hard to get the attention it deserves and yet it still won't come together in a movie that results in a nomination.
I guess a list like this is really nothing more than a list of movies that should have the potential to get a nomination if everything goes right.
"You're going into the water... short-arse!" - Sherlock
Also you never know with Weinstein. When he loves a movie he campaigns like crazy but he doesn't doubt to throw away films when he is not happy with them. Some of them because they aren't very good but sometimes he neglects acclaimed movies that could won or at least nominated for something: The Immigrant, Snowpiercer, Fruitvale Station, Sing Street, etc. Even The Founder received a some positive reviews this year. I read that he was sued by Film Nation, which financed it, because he realesed it almost at the same time than other of his movies, Gold. They claimed the plots were very similar and by the same company and that these affect them on the box office. Who knows! But clearly his horse race this year was Lion and he didn't care too much for the other two.
Have either of you read the excellent book "Produced and Abandoned: The Best Films You Never Have Seen"? It was published in 1990 but it still holds true today and was put together from reveiws made by members of the National Society of Film Critics.
The book examines almost 100 films made in the 70s and 80s that were chosen precisely because "abandoned by the studios and the mass audience. What makes these films hard to market and thus hard for moviegoers to find and adopt is precisely what makes them special." The critics who selected these abandoned gems include Roger Ebert, Peter Travers, Richard Schickel, David Ansen, Judith Crist, Owen Gleiberman, Pauline Kael, Kenneth Turan, David Denby, Terrence Rafferty, J. Hoberman, and others. There is a very interesting introduction as well as various preambles at the beginning of each chapter (the book subdivided the films by unifying factors - social commentaries, political films,western films, non-English language films, etc.) that takes and overview of why these films (some of which are looked upon with much more respect today) were not supported by the very studios that went through the trouble of making them.
I guess what I am trying to say is that what you are talking about isn't unique to HW (not that you said it was, but I just want to widen the discussion a bit) and it has been going on for a very long time.
I have used this book over the years as a guide to films that might be more or less overlooked if you just use a "best films of 19--" lists. But it also gives an intriguing glimpse into the world of filmmaking and how it comes to past that someo films just don't get the "red carpet" treatment that others do.
I highly recommend it for any cinephile. It was published by Mercury House and edited by Michael Sragow.
"You're going into the water... short-arse!" - Sherlock
I didn't love The Immigrant but what TWC did with it was very strange. How critics reacted to TI was also very strange, it had not very good reviews till Weinstein dumped it.
I didn't love it either, although I thought Cotillard was fantastic. But yes, the critical response was very interesting. I think many critics and people in general simply enjoy seeing Weinstein films fail. I think now that he hasn't been so pushy and over-the-top for awards lately being associated with him isn't so bad. I didn't even know Lion was a Weinstein film even though I've seen it until recently!
I think it's crazy to predict Oscar nominations for movies that haven't even finished filming, but that's what they're doing:
Benedict Cumberbatch (The Imitation Game) could be back at the Dolby with a new biopic, The Current War, about electricity titans Thomas Edison (Cumberbatch) and George Westinghouse, who compete to create a sustainable system and market it to the American people. The Weinstein Company film doesn’t have a release date yet but I’ll bet you right now it lands the Thanksgiving release like TIG and Lion did. Fellow Oscar nominee Michael Shannon plays Westinghouse but it remains to be seen if both roles are Best Actor competitive or if one will be pushed supporting.