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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 23, 2017 14:21:47 GMT
From today. The movie is clearly not finished yet (it was reported that the cut in the screening test was without music) but it's not so weird. I remember TIG even changed the composer almost at last minute. It's the last part of the process and the musicians were announced very recently. They were nominated for Lion last year and I was surprised they were chosen for this and not for Lion's director new movie. It and the fact Mary Magdalene wasn't send to TIFF made me think TCW was Weinstein horse for the award season.
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Post by mllemass on Aug 23, 2017 15:51:21 GMT
The movie doesn't come out until November, so I can believe it's not quite finished. If it were finished, we would have seen a trailer by now.
And I'm certain that TIG had a slightly different ending when I saw it at the premiere, although I couldn't find anyone who agreed with me. I remember thinking that it would have been nice to see Alan Turing again at the end, so that it would feel more like a proper ending. But when I saw it at the theatre a few months later, the last image on the screen was Turing! I mentioned it at the time, on our old IMDb forum, but no one agreed with me.
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Post by roverpup on Aug 23, 2017 16:26:05 GMT
I am very excited for Gomez-Rejón. He certainly deserves to break into the major leagues of directors IMO. I immediately felt an affinity towards his style of movie making when viewing Me, Earl and the Dying Girl and I would love to see what he can do with a bigger budget and such a talented cast. Getting this exposure (and having a name like Scorsese attached to TCW) at a major film festival could lead to further accolades and even perhaps an Oscar nom. That could result of course in expansion of his opportunities to make other films which I would enjoy a lot. The possibilities are endless and all the better for cinephiles.
But I still want TCW to be a truly great movie for BC's sake just as much.
While, as you say, BC is a familiar name as an actor, with TCW I think BC is very much a novice as an executive producer (as much as Gomez-Rejón is as a director). In this regard with TCW BC also deserves his break into the big leagues too.
TCW is kind of pivotal breakout point for both men.
SunnyMarch is a very young company and a company which seems eager to get deeply involved in both film and TV projects. TCW is the very first big scale project for BC as an ex-prod and for SunnyMarch. It does have other projects on the burners - a lot of which are in the TV division of SunnyMarch so this is a big deal for the movie end of the business. If this project isn't in the critical and financial success column it could complicate the ability of SM to expand and reinforce its reputation in the film division for the future (beyond the deals that they already have in place).
But saying all that, for BC, even as a well established actor, I hope TCW will be noted as a really good film. I just want to see him in works that I find personally interesting and for him to be further recognised by others as being in a piece of quality work as well.
:-))
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 23, 2017 16:55:41 GMT
I'm not sure it's actually a Sunny March production. I know AA and BC are executive producers but that's actually a very random credit. It supposedly is related to financing but it could be someone who in some capacity helps to do the movie. For example, I can imagine Gómez-Rejon mentor, Martín Scorsese giving him recommendations and asking or someone offering him the credit for that.
I think BC said recently The Child in Time is his company's first formal project.
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Post by roverpup on Aug 23, 2017 20:58:23 GMT
I am not sure what you meant by a very "random" credit? Random... as in the credit of executive producer was given to them without any merit or criteria?? That sounds as if you think it was perfunctory in nature. I know this does happen with some productions (mainly used as a ploy to give the credited person more money) but I haven't heard that this was the case with BC in TCW.
Edit: Just for my own education and curiosity I looked up the role of Executive Producer and found this definition on the PGA site: So I am going to assume that BC's title of Excutive Producer was given with that criteria in mind.
Regardless of whether this is officially/formally a SunnyMarch production, or exactly what kind of contribution BC or AA made to TCW, I would still have to think that with BC's name (and Adam Ackland's name for that matter) publicly attached to TCW as executive producer(s), it would be important to him (and for SM for which both of them are principle owners) for it to be received well.
After all, if TCW was touted as complete failure or "stinker" then how much cache would their names carry in future producer endeavours with SunnyMarch as a production company?
OTOH, if TCW is received favourably (both critically and/or commercially) I would have to think it would reflect well on both BC and AA as listed executive producers of the film and that would, in turn, also carry through to other things SunnyMarch does as well because these two gentlemen are the major owners of it.
That's the point I was making in my previous post and another reason for me to wish it well.
:-))
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 23, 2017 23:56:57 GMT
What I wanted to say is that it's a very open credit. It's not necessary just about helping with the financing. A recent example can be found in the Luca Guadagnino's interviews posted here in the Rio thread, he says he was approached by Call me by your Name producers because they wanted his opinion about where was the location in the novel. He helped them with locations related stuff and other stuff and they gave him an executive producer credit. He was a some kind of adviser. Later after a few changes they hired him to direct the movie.
About Gómez-Rejon, I just think BC it's in a better position compared to a young new talent with just an horror movie and an indie little film with his name. Nothing more!
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Post by dreamsincolour on Aug 24, 2017 3:37:43 GMT
Sort of relevant to the issue re BC's role as producer is the reflection of financial clout demonstrated by the recently published 2017 list (actually year to June) of the highest paid actors. As it happens, I actually think the amounts of money involved are simply ludicrous (irrespective of actor), but I did find it quite surprising that BC wasn't included at all when he had Strange under his belt in the relevant period (and his association with the other Upcoming Marvel films), when the likes of such as Jeremy Renner was included. What was Jeremy Renner supposed to have been paid for so hugely in that period when he didn't have one of the Marvel films at all and has only ever been supporting there rather than the lead? It didn't make too much sense to me. And it didn't make too much sense that Eddie Redmayne was also being supposed to have been paid more. Just curious re others' thoughts. Or maybe this should have a separate thread? www.forbes.com/sites/natalierobehmed/2017/08/22/the-worlds-highest-paid-actors-2017-mark-wahlberg-leads-with-68-million/#5830c5e13f92
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Post by roverpup on Aug 24, 2017 4:25:12 GMT
I didn't expect BC to be on that list at all, so it didn't surprise me in the least he wasn't named. His contract with Marvel has just begun (beginning contracts with Marvel are known, aren't they, for their "stinginess? The bigger paydays come later on with the sequels, so I have heard)and he didn't make a huge amount of money from his work on Sherlock relative to what the other people on that list made elsewhere.
I think he also isn't one to be making $$$ his top priority perhaps? Other factors might also play a huge part in his decisions when accepting work (how far and long he will be away from his young family, location of the shoot, who he is working with, challenges of the role, etc.) nowadays. Not saying that he works for pennies, of course, but he might not make it a top priority to get the highest $$$ on a list of high paid actors.
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Post by MagdaFR on Aug 24, 2017 8:38:00 GMT
And it didn't make too much sense that Eddie Redmayne was also being supposed to have been paid more. I don't see Eddie Redmayne on the list but Fantastic Beasts made more money than DS. Full list best paid actorsJeremy Renner was in Arrival which was a boxoffice success. Amy Adams is also in the list. She had Arrival and Batman vs Superman. Renner Arrival + Civil War.
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 24, 2017 10:36:21 GMT
There was a rumor that he was paid, I think $11M or $14M for Strange or something similar at the time. The logic tells that he should have a better contract than ER just because he has much more lucrative movies/series under his belt but who knows? Maybe ER has better agents!!!
EDITED: ER is not in the Forbes list.
Also the article about BC's paycheck was on The Daily Star (not exactly the best source!) and says he will pay £12M for the sequel and that it is a %400 pay rise fro te first movie.
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