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Post by dreamsincolour on Sept 2, 2017 21:55:24 GMT
Must admit that I was much more taken by that trailer than I thought I would be! It did look interesting, when I'd actually thought I wouldn't necessarily actually go to see the film at all. I still have reservations re wanting to see the killing in it, but I am pleased to be intrigued enough now for that to be offset.
Look forward to hearing reports back from that premiere...
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Post by queenzod on Sept 2, 2017 22:17:49 GMT
Dreams, how much killing is in it, do you know? I would think for a Weinstein, Oscar baity movie it wouldn't be too graphic. If there's one thing movie goers hate, it's killing animals onscreen. Mow down gobs of humans and rip them limb from limb in spurty slo mo, sure, but save the dog! Or elephant, in this case. Or at least give adequate cues so I can cover my eyes at the appropriate moment.
I would hope there would be other ways to demonstrate Edison's ruthlessness and that they would focus more on the fierce, steely power struggle between the two men. BC and Shannon are more than capable of showing that level of resolve.
What interests me about it also is this sketch of those robber barons of the Gilded Age, and the way in which they built their empires. A strange mix of personal greed and trying to benefit the masses.
I think it looks interesting and different than the normal spew from Hollywood.
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Post by sgev1977 on Sept 2, 2017 22:35:02 GMT
Slightly out of context but I once read an article about Wes Anderson obsession for killing dogs in his movies. That's not the first thing you think when you heard his name but totally truth...and funny! Worst, his next feature is called Isle of Dogs! It will be a carnage! We know that Weinstein did one or two screening tests I can see him change this particular element if the audience reaction is extreme. Here is Chung-Hoon Chung DP reel. I think I posted it on IMDb forums but it worth another post: vimeo.com/72166028IT'S A LITTLE VIOLENT.
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Post by roverpup on Sept 3, 2017 3:38:12 GMT
Thanks so much for posting the link to that Chung-Hoon Chung DP reel. Loved it completely! That chap has a really unique style. So visceral and dramatic and yet it does appeal to the intellect on a very artistic level as well.
In fact your link inspired us to watch Stoker (which Chung-Hoon Chung was the DP on as well) and I recognised a lot of the scenes from his DP reel. The movie was tension filled and very creepy (especially the spider up the legs scenes) but sooooo beautifully done with the cinematography and camera movements. Very different and unique feel than the usual movie of this sort. The use of colour saturation in some of the scenes were incredible (especially in the final scene with the blood on the vegetation).
As for the violence - I hate gratuitous gore that is just done for shock value but I don't mind violence in film (even to animals) if it is within the context where it completely serves the story not the other way around. I probably won't have any problem with TCW because I expect it to use any of that sort of thing within the contextual frame of the narrative.
Getting back to Stoker's visual style - I loved the scene where the daughter was brushing her mother's hair and it segued so smoothly into the waving blades of tall grass where the father and the same daughter were lying in a hunter's lair waiting to draw bead on some birds. Masterfully done!
I hope to see such displays of talent like this in TCW. Makes me even more excited to watch it now!
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Post by dreamsincolour on Sept 3, 2017 8:30:41 GMT
Dreams, how much killing is in it, do you know? I would think for a Weinstein, Oscar baity movie it wouldn't be too graphic. If there's one thing movie goers hate, it's killing animals onscreen. Mow down gobs of humans and rip them limb from limb in spurty slo mo, sure, but save the dog! Or elephant, in this case. Or at least give adequate cues so I can cover my eyes at the appropriate moment. I would hope there would be other ways to demonstrate Edison's ruthlessness and that they would focus more on the fierce, steely power struggle between the two men. BC and Shannon are more than capable of showing that level of resolve. I'm only going by what was in the script. And aspects of that might well have changed. But they won't leave out the killing because it's too intrinsic a part of the story with Edison trying to prove that the alternating current system was so much more dangerous. And there's quite a lot of it, from the animals to the development of the electric chair to a tragic accident. But it wasn't/won't be graphic. On the other hand they weren't always portrayed as disassociated events either (the accident was). I don't choose to see gruesome horror but I'm not actually particularly squeamish, And things can be unpleasant without being graphic. Reading about, and knowing about, what happened from a disassociated perspective, is different to wanting to see it dramatised. In the script I found the personalisation of the animals, which was done to effect to emphasise the awfulness of it in place of showing the actuality of the killing, to be very effective. But that very effectiveness left a nasty taste in my mouth. That was what was making me think I didn't particularly want to see the film. Sorry, I would have put a spoiler over part of that, but the spoiler option isn't there. And that's only a tiny part of it anyway.
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Post by queenzod on Sept 3, 2017 8:52:46 GMT
No, it's fine without the spoiler. I am squeamish, so I have to avert my eyes sometimes. And when I'm at home alone, I also stick my fingers in my ears and say "lalalala" aloud, lol. I don't think I want to do that in a theater if they show actually killing the animals. I don't mind if it happens off screen. I'll probably wait to see it until I get a description from someone who has seen it. Thanks! 😃👋🏼
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Post by lorelei on Sept 6, 2017 10:57:14 GMT
Checking out TCW's IMDb page, I notice now it states the movie will be released in the US on Jan. 18? Does this take it out of Oscar contention? I thought that was at least part of the point of its premiere at TIFF......
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Post by igs on Sept 6, 2017 13:23:45 GMT
Checking out TCW's IMDb page, I notice now it states the movie will be released in the US on Jan. 18? Does this take it out of Oscar contention? I thought that was at least part of the point of its premiere at TIFF...... That's the wide release, the Oscar-qualifying limited release is in November.
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Post by lorelei on Sept 6, 2017 13:43:57 GMT
Oh yeah LOL! Thanks for reminding me. I imagine then that I will be waiting until the wide release to see it, since I live in the middle of nowhere.
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Post by igs on Sept 6, 2017 17:54:55 GMT
I'll see your wide release and raise you my international release which will happen who knows when lol. I'll have my fingers crossed for February.
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