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Post by MagdaFR on Jun 14, 2017 8:54:58 GMT
Where did people find the TCW script? I'd love to read it. sgev found it. Check messages.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 14, 2017 10:50:24 GMT
That's the problem with Oscar baity movies! Award fan boys go crazy about the competition. I would dare to say that they are even worst than comic book fans!
Of course, the movie could be bad. The person who didn't like it actually watched it. We didn't but yes, someone who is known to hate Weinstein movies and calls BC "alien lizard" doesn't sound very objective. And remember that the first person who was in an audience screening and commented Doctor Strange didn't like it and he was very critical but in a non-vicious way.
And I agreed BC never plays the characters in the same way. Yes, most of them are intelligent men but not all intelligent men are the same and the Edison from the early script is very different to Turing and co. The funny part about people claiming BC always play the same character is that I bet a lot of their favorite actors actually do. That's the American cinematography way and there's nothing bad with that! Actually they tend to be more respected than theatre/transformative actors like BC by auteurs because they are the real movie actors! Of course this is changing and more and more British actors who begin in the theatre are being hired by great filmmakers but the raw division was that: transformative most of them British actors who win Oscars but don't do really great movies and the iconic great American actors who are the "real" screen actors.
Remember that young critic from a highbrow site who posted a video criticizing the transformative performances of BC, ER and other from 2015 Oscar Best Actor nominees for being very technical but superficial for the big screen. The real great screen actors aren't transformative but about subtly transmit emotions. Then when Doctor Strange was released posted an essay about BC's voice saying that even when he still think his Alan Turing wasn't a great performance he now see it's a much more complex performance he originally thought thanks to the subtlety in his voice. Then seriously and un ironically quoted a thinking piece that claimed BC's voice was "rapey" because it was just too much masculine and it could triggered male violence victims! Of course I followed the link and it was a right wing satire site making fun of SJW!!!! 🙄 Modern criticism!!!!
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Post by MagdaFR on Jun 14, 2017 11:44:32 GMT
Of course I'm not assuming that the movie is going to be good.
A thing it surprised me is that the people who watched it didn't developed at all why they did or didn't like it. They didn't comment if it followed the script, nothing. The people who asked only wanted to know about its awards' chances.
The "alien lizard" comment was from the guy who liked the movie. The other -who said it was BC's worst acting- called him BC.
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Post by onebluestocking on Jun 14, 2017 13:21:56 GMT
Thanks!
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Post by onebluestocking on Jun 14, 2017 13:31:02 GMT
It looks like the guy who didn't like it only says "I have my reasons." So I'll just disregard him and remain excited!
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 14, 2017 13:47:40 GMT
Of course I'm not assuming that the movie is going to be good. A thing it surprised me is that the people who watched it didn't developed at all why they did or didn't like it. They didn't comment if it followed the script, nothing. The people who asked only wanted to know about its awards' chances. The "alien lizard" comment was from the guy who liked the movie. The other -who said it was BC's worst acting- called him BC. Normally people who go to those screenings are banned to tell specifics but if they let them to say it's good or bad then it's very probable that the studio thought they would say it's good.
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Post by roverpup on Jun 14, 2017 13:50:10 GMT
Can I genuinely ask something of those of you who visit the AW site? Why would anyone put any stock into these people's opinions? I am not familiar with this site but my first (and lasting) impression was that the posters on this site are kind of immature and very self-important for the most part. They all seem to know each other and seem to be heavily into "one upmanship" as to who can be the snarkiest and have the appearance of remaining "above it all" by not admitting to liking anything outright.
Is this typical of all the threads or is this one just an anomaly? Because if it is the norm, then I think I will give this site a wide berth from now on.
Really, Why give any attention to what their opinions are? And is there any real proof that the two, who said they saw TCW, even did? I certainly wouldn't consider anything I read on there to be an important (or even interesting) opinion as to the fate of any film. I am not saying that you folks can't discuss what is said on that site, only that I don't see the point because the site seems ludicrous.
Isn't this a case of the attention we pay to them gives them a type of credibility that they don't deserve?
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 14, 2017 14:33:14 GMT
I guess the "credibility" they have is that they watched the movie. That's all! Of course it's very possible they are "disposed" to have certain prejudiced opinions because that's how that site works. TBH I would have been more surprised if they absolutely loved BC and the movie. But again I haven't watched it so my supposition is based just in knowing the site. Nothing more!
It's a very nasty forum. I was a member a long time ago. They received you with a warning about trying not to attack female members/actresses so you can imagine!I'm still amazed that they are so cynical about award-baity movies when the concept of the site is that and they clearly aren't interested in discussing the movies themselves.
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Post by kreizimam on Jun 14, 2017 14:33:51 GMT
I only visited that site whenever BC or his film or other films that I like is on awards radar. Or, if I happened to be interested on a particular year's award race. I don't give importance to their opinion, but as far as awards season goes (and the movies in play), they usually have the latest news/info and as such in depth predictions/analysis what have you. Case in point, Current War. They try to see the screening and some of them did. Thus I got infos, albeit in form of an opinion that I don't like. And, in spite of their smug attitude, and their biases, they do researches and giving data for their prediction. I prefer them than Gold Derby.
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Post by roverpup on Jun 14, 2017 15:45:28 GMT
Well, thanks for your candid replies.
I guess it isn't a site for me. I am not particularly drawn to sites that have an excess of "attitude" from the get-go and that the core members act like they are King Tut's belly-button. I have to believe there has to be other sources of info about upcoming movies other than these people. From my sampling at least, I didn't see any substance on display in that thread.
It's too bad that if there is some good, solid info on it, seems completely drowned out by a lot of flotsam and jetsam.
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