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Post by sgev1977 on Mar 19, 2017 12:36:28 GMT
It's a great role for him so I really hope the adaptation is at the level of his talents. I haven't watched Far From the Madding Crowd but it was well received by the critics so it's good the adaptation is being made by the same scriptwriter. I understand he is considered a light weight novelist but he had adapted complex writers before.
I really want BC plays Patrick since book 2. I'm convinced he can play "younger" if he wants and it would be great to look him going from the rebel drug addict to the tormented middle aged father. I'm sure he has the talent enough to do it. I can't imagine another actor of his generation doing a role like this and from young to old. I think he can do it and I hope he do the entire cycle.
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Post by sgev1977 on Mar 19, 2017 12:53:39 GMT
Casting might be tricky because the story stretches out over 40 years and several characters are in most of the books. Patrick's father: Aside from possible flashbacks, he is only in the first book. I think he's supposed to be in his early to mid 40s. Handsome, brilliant, and very cruel. I don't have any ideas. Maybe I'm wrong but I think it's mentioned that he is a 60 years old man during the events of the first book. Later is mentioned he isn't happy when people thought he was the grandfather of his own son. EDITED: I checked and yes, he is sixty. Its a very difficult character. Weirdly charismatic for the other characters but monstrous and repulsive. I wonder who can play him? An slightly old Ralph Finnes would be perfect. I just checked and he is only 54.
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Post by roverpup on Mar 19, 2017 14:08:45 GMT
I have watched it and I loved it. 😍
I loved the book. And I loved Schlesinger's 1968 version. But Thomas Vinterberg's version was a far superior adaptation of the novel to the screenplay written by Fredric Raphael (who also coincidently wrote the adaptation of P. O'Toole's 1976 version of Rogue Male) for Schlesinger's movie IMO.
While the '68 version does capture all the bucolic beauty of the English countryside, it essentially was less of a social commentary than Hardy's novel which incorporated this theme so well into the romantic story of Bathsheba's life. The newer version does this incorporation much better I think. And Carey Mulligan is embued by the script and the director as a relatable, determined young woman who, while not always wise in her decisions, is very human in her choices.
David Nicholls did the screenplay for Starter for 10 (from his own book) and it was a great adaptation to the screen IMO. And he has adapted (like you said) some pretty complex writers before this - Dickens with Great Expectations, Hardy with Tess of the D'Urbervilles as well as Far From the Madding Crowd. I have no reason to suspect that he won't do well with this material.
:-))
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Post by coolclearwaters on Mar 19, 2017 17:05:34 GMT
Yes, the father is 60. I looked it up after I posted, but never corrected it. I think Rupert Everett or Jeremy Irons could be good in that role. actually, I think Everett would make a great Nicholas Pratt, but he may be too old for the first book.
I completely agree about Benedict being the only actor of his generation who I can imagine in this role. I think he has the chance to be extraordinary.
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Post by dreamsincolour on Mar 19, 2017 18:12:04 GMT
EDITED: I checked and yes, he is sixty. Its a very difficult character. Weirdly charismatic for the other characters but monstrous and repulsive. I wonder who can play him? An slightly old Ralph Fiennes would be perfect. I just checked and he is only 54. St Aubyn's own father was 59/60. So that aspect of the story (and it is a fictional story even as it relates to his own life and was cathartic) is true to life. But is that the father was specifically 60 really that relevant? I think "whoever" just needs to be a relatively older man. The facility re the other combination of attributes is more important. I don't suppose it'll happen, but I actually think Ralph Fiennes would be a great choice too.
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Post by sgev1977 on Mar 19, 2017 19:09:27 GMT
I also thought in Rupert Everett for Nicholas! He would be perfect.
I know I'm dreaming saying Ralph Fiennes for the father but yes, he would be perfect. As his Amon Goeth shows he really can manage monstrousus but charismatic tyrants.
Jeremy Irons once was in the news after apparently comparing gay marriage with him marrying his own son so it would be slightly creepy if he is offered the role.
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Post by igs on Mar 19, 2017 19:20:05 GMT
Jeremy Irons once was in the news after apparently comparing gay marriage with him marrying his own son so it would be slightly creepy if he is offered the role. What?? No! I've always loved Jeremy Irons and suddenly all that respect plummeted. Uh yeah, googled this... "It's not incest if it's between men"? Ok... Maybe not a good pick for this project.
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Post by coolclearwaters on Mar 19, 2017 23:52:42 GMT
Irons has backtracked on his, frankly, stupid remarks about gay marriage and supposedly supports it now. He is given to making nutty comments on any number of topics. I often find him charming and likable, but sometimes question his intelligence - not because I disagree with him (I usually do), but because the things he says are so out there and not well thought out or expressed. I'm generally in favor of actors saying whatever ridiculous things they want rather than coming off as programmed PR shills. Lord only knows what Gary Oldman thinks, but I'll still go see his movies.
Irons is still a great actor and I think might make a good David Melrose. He also has a deep, plummy voice and would be believable as Benedict's father. How about Hugh Laurie? I haven't seen enough of his acting to know if he can be truly evil and depraved.
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Post by sgev1977 on Mar 20, 2017 0:25:38 GMT
You mentioned Gary Oldman. He really can play evil although he doesn't look too much like BC to play his father.
Coolclearwaters mentioned also Julianne Moore for Eleanor. She sounds good and I'm sure she could play younger and older. Shirley McClaine for Nancy! Yes, it's an all-star dream cast. 😉
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Post by coolclearwaters on Mar 20, 2017 1:01:32 GMT
I don't think Gary Oldman would be a good choice for the father (although I never pictured him as Churchill either). I just mentioned him as part of the discussion about Jeremy Irons' comments on gay marriage. Goldman is very conservative and has gotten in trouble in the past about his opinions.
I was the one who suggested Julianne Moore as the mother. I think she is such a fearless actress and could be brilliant in the role. Shirley McLaine would be fun as Nancy!
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