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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 9, 2020 3:26:43 GMT
I'm just discovering this *scandal* Seriously, who are these people? Somehow they think they are some kind of feminists but they treat adult women like little girls! And then when she defends herself they attack her for not doing with her life what they are saying is "right" thing to do! So insane!
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Post by queenzod on Apr 9, 2020 5:18:41 GMT
Fake feminists.
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Post by mllemass on Apr 9, 2020 6:36:26 GMT
She looks like a teenager and he looks like her father. The same thing goes for Ben Affleck and his latest young girlfriend who keep getting photographed kissing in public. I will always be suspicious of these old guys that go for girls who are not only much younger, but look underage.
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 9, 2020 13:58:41 GMT
Sorry, mllemass but it doesn't matter how they look, they are adults. If they were minors and looked older then would be right for an adult person to date them? It's insane!
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Post by queenzod on Apr 9, 2020 14:20:06 GMT
It’s b/c in their tiny minds, men think they’re still 25, even if they’re 60.
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Post by mllemass on Apr 9, 2020 14:45:53 GMT
Sorry, mllemass but it doesn't matter how they look, they are adults. If they were minors and looked older then would be right for an adult person to date them? It's insane! But that’s exactly what does happen! Think back to the whole James Franco incident, where the underage girl lied to him about her age and he insisted he thought she was older. Instead of being careful to make sure she was over 18, he should have checked that she was over 30, because he was 35 at the time. I know that FP is an adult and can obviously make her own decisions. I was just wondering why she was so upset by the reactions she got to her relationship. She needs to get used to it, because she’s going to look very young for a few more years. Didn’t she just play a 12-year-old in Little Women? I don’t think she was cast in the part because she looked like a grown-up adult. My complaint is with the grizzly old guys who dump their age-appropriate partners to chase after much younger girls. I automatically think “child molester” when I see it - they know they’ll get arrested if they try to date an actual child, so they look for someone who just looks like a child, instead. Yes, I know that I could be all wrong about this and it’s really true love. I hope so! |
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 9, 2020 15:47:12 GMT
Im not famiar with the Franco anecdote but yep, it could be messy and you could get in real trouble even if the minor lied to you. That's my point! And yes, I can give a much more extreme example, remember the Kevin Spacey's accuser. He was a minor and he and his family sued him for harassment. Spacey is very creepy and I totally believe most of his accusers but that case was extremely weak. Not just he and his family hid evidence (they "lost" the phone with the messages in which he was happily telling her girlfriend about Spacey flirting with him) but he was in a bar! He shouldn't be there and again Spacey is awful but it would be extremely weird to be flirting with someone in a place in which there shouldn't be minors and then suddenly ask for an id! Spacey has the perfect excuse! Is he a predator? Sure and he likes very young men, too. But he was totally right in that he was in a place in which kids shouldn't be allowed and still he got in trouble. Why? Because it doesn't matter how he looked, he was a minor and it's illegal! There was a similar scandal in the 80s or early 90s with Rob Lowe and a pair of girls who supposedly told him they were adults so they ALL had sex and made a video. He survived it but again the main issue was that they were minors (even with the lies!) and it got him in trouble. You get in trouble if you consciously or even unconsciously date or flirt or have sex with a minor even if she or he looks like adult. Why? Because the law is not based in looks but in mental development.
On the other hand, you have an adult woman who, I presume, has the mental development of an adult human being publicly judged for her very personal decisions about her own life. And you and me are free to think whatever we want about her and her boyfriend but it doesn't change two things: 1) the relationship is totally legal and 2) it's incredible rude to send messages to someone you don't personally know and tell her who she shouldn't date as those two freaks did on her Instagram!
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Post by mllemass on Apr 9, 2020 16:08:38 GMT
I agree. No matter what my opinion, I can’t imagine going online to criticize strangers about how they live their lives! I only read her reaction and watched her little video, and I didn’t read what they had written to her, but I’m sure it was horrible. I don’t think she should have dignified any of it with a response, but she’s part of this generation that puts their lives online for all to see. My own complaint isn’t with her, anyway, but with ZB.
I remember reading a book years ago about success in business, and one idea really stood out to me: When something good happens to you, most of the world is not happy about it. It’s a harsh reality, but so true. Your loved ones will share in your happiness, but most other people won’t care at all about your success, and some will actually hope for your failure. This explains why people don’t always find the happiness they’re expecting from achieving success. My point is that FP shouldn’t expect her followers to share in her happiness with her relationship. She should ignore the negative responses and live her life.
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Post by queenzod on Apr 9, 2020 20:58:14 GMT
Agreed the whole middle aged man dumps his wife of 25 years and marries/gets a younger model is problematic, but there are some reasons for that. I had to have a hard think about it when my brother did it. There were some extenuating circumstances in that his wife of 25 years was a literal crazy person and his children were grown. He didn’t find someone else until after he left her (no affairs), and I finally realized he just wanted to be loved. I can’t find fault with that.
Most of these cases don’t work like that, however.
Yes, people who are legal adults should be able to live their lives the way they want without having rando strangers on the interwebz calling them names, even if they are celebrities living their life in public (a horrible situation so glad I’m not famous). But men who date people 25+ years younger than them need to question why they’re doing that as well, I think. Is it about looks? Control? Status?
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 9, 2020 21:34:17 GMT
It's a moral issue and everyone has different morals and it's ok. The problem is when someone is trying to impose their own morals on others! Much worse when these moralistic kids who somehow see themselves as progressive dare to write those horrible messages on her social media accounts! That's what bothered to me! They are just nasty bullies but see themselves as heroic activists and I think that's disgusting! Not the relationship (as they say) but its critics' hypocrisy!
Agreed with mllemass, that she probably should had ignored them, tho. They don't deserve her attention! That little video just gave publicity to the issue. At least, I have seen some backlash against the trolls!
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