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Post by queenzod on May 7, 2020 18:32:19 GMT
I decided if I’m going to trash this I should watch it, so I binged 5 episodes last night, two more to go. It’s pretty bad. I knew I was going to have a problem in the opening 10 minutes when some rando, speaking to the young soldier lead, said “thank you for your service.” NOBODY said that to WWII vets. Ever. That’s something that Americans invented during the Iraqi War to make them feel better for getting blown up during an unwanted war.
It got worse from there, and I’m sure I’ll have more to say after I finish it. It’s mostly salacious, melodramatic pablum. I feel like I’ve been beaten half to death with a cudgel. I know it’s revisionist, but jeeez. Lots of it is so people can say “oh, look! It’s Vivian Leigh! Rock Hudson!” Hudson is portrayed as an idiot who can’t act, which wasn’t true at all is is pretty cruel. There’s just something off about the entire production.
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Post by mllemass on May 23, 2020 22:17:47 GMT
I just watched the first two episodes of Hollywood, and I’m really enjoying it! I guess I wasn’t expecting a documentary, so I am absolutely fine with the obvious inaccuracies.
I remember in one of my university English classes, our professor went into a rant one day about the tv show MASH. He said he was sick of people praising the show, when in fact it wasn’t at all an accurate depiction of the 1950’s and the Korean War. He spoke specifically about an episode that dealt with racism. It had a black doctor being treated badly by another doctor because of his colour. The show’s regulars were outraged and got together to teach the racist doctor a lesson. I remember our prof told us that in reality, the opposite would have occurred. They would ALL have treated the black man badly, with the exception of maybe one lone person. But the show didn’t want us to see the beloved MASH characters as racist, so they created a story where the only racist was an outsider.
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Post by sgev1977 on May 23, 2020 23:38:59 GMT
One of the very few movies that unintentionally creeps me out with it's old fashioned values is the original version of MASH. And I watch a lot of old movies from the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, etc. Real old stuff! But that movie and the way the "heroes" treat women really make me feel very uncomfortable! But the teacher was right, that was the truth. It's more credible that those "nonconformist" army doctors would commit sexual harrassment than defended the honor of a bullied black man (also I suspect Robert Altman was slightly misogynist!). Maybe he was also comparing the film with the series. I have never watched the beloved TV show but I had read it's very toothless compared with the film.
Anyway, I think the criticism against Hollywood is not just that they showed a bunch of fictional heroic forward thinking characters (that actually is extremely common in Hollywood movies!) but that in order to do that, they erased real heroic people and/or showed them as some kind losers!
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