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Mar 7, 2017 23:30:01 GMT
Post by MagdaFR on Mar 7, 2017 23:30:01 GMT
What do you think of the Holmes' parents?
They seem so adorable/normal people and then they had no photographs of Eurus at their home, not even in Christmas they mentioned their deceased little daughter, they didn't send Sherlock to therapy when he erased his sister completely from his memory and turned his friend Victor into a dog. They never mentioned their daughter to John.
Let's not talk of their reaction when they learn their daughter is alive and living in confinement for more than 30 years.
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Mar 8, 2017 3:56:53 GMT
Post by mllemass on Mar 8, 2017 3:56:53 GMT
I completely believed the Holmes situation.
There was a time when people thought that the best way to "get over" a tragic death was to never talk about it. A friend of mine lost her husband more than 30 years ago, when her children were 3 and 7 years old. She has told me that her very close, loving family advised her to stop dwelling on it and get back out there and carry on as if nothing had happened - for her children's sake. They told her to remove almost all memories of him from her home because they were keeping her sad. She hated doing it, but she was a young, grieving widow and thought they knew what was best for her, so she followed their advice.
I had known her her several years before she really spoke about him to me. I told her that I never asked her about him because she never brought up the subject so I figured she wasn't comfortable talking about it. It was such a relief for her to hear that I wanted her to tell me about him! Her family had convinced her all those years ago that she was bringing everyone down, so she got used to never even saying his name. She told me that she secretly kept one of his shirts so she could remember his scent, and that she'd regularly go to the drugstore to smell the soap and deodorant he used.
If the grieving Holmes parents were told that it was best for everyone to let Sherlock forget he had had a sister, I believe they would have done that for him. I also believe that they secretly held on to her photos and toys, because that's what people do.
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Mar 8, 2017 4:25:41 GMT
Post by queenzod on Mar 8, 2017 4:25:41 GMT
It's amazing what people can keep secret. My brothers first wife was married before she met him. When she was 18 she ran away and married some guy to get away from her overbearing father. Her father and uncle found her, dragged her back home and annulled the marriage. My brother, who was married to her for 25 years, never told any of us. I only found out a couple years ago.
Or look at Bobby Darrin, who's mother was (he thought) his sister.
What goes on with people's secrets is mind bending. I feel for your friend, Mllemass. She should have been allowed to grieve in her own time.
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Mar 8, 2017 13:04:37 GMT
Post by susanhex1 on Mar 8, 2017 13:04:37 GMT
Probably the Holmes discussed it with Mycroft and came to the conclusion it was best to let it go. Which put Mycroft in the position of keeping watch on Sherlock for the next 25 years when John enters the picture. He kept giving him words to check his reactions but really to check to see if he might have any of Euras violent tendencies. I can imagine the Holmes living in fear all those years.
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Mar 8, 2017 13:23:42 GMT
Post by ellie on Mar 8, 2017 13:23:42 GMT
I think if you look into lots of the Sherlock plots there's a lot that doesn't really stand up to close scrutiny. But the way I look at it it's supposed to be entertainment not documentary so I don't mind the inconsistencies so long as it's enjoyable. 😀
I'm not talking about the subject of this thread as I know Magda has a healthy attitude to the show, but the big problem with the Sherlock fandom is that lots of people seemed to take the whole thing way too seriously. If the script had catered for every issue that has been used as a stick to beat it with it would have ended up an extraordinarily dull, preachy and probably incomprehensible show.
As it was it was one of the best pieces of entertainment the BBC or indeed any network has produced in years.
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Mar 8, 2017 13:34:21 GMT
Post by queenzod on Mar 8, 2017 13:34:21 GMT
I agree, Ellen. You can't look too closely at Sherlock and there are plot holes big enough to drive an 18 wheeler through. I don't care. I watch it for Ben, Martin and Mark. Oh, and Rupert. 😍 It's a fun show and the guys look great. Oh, and Loo. She's wonderful.
There was a time in my life when I would have gone ballistic over the inconsistencies but those days are long gone. There are other things to worry about rather than a bunch of fictional characters.
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Mar 8, 2017 16:47:28 GMT
Post by roverpup on Mar 8, 2017 16:47:28 GMT
I'm not talking about the subject of this thread as I know Magda has a healthy attitude to the show, but the big problem with the Sherlock fandom is that lots of people seemed to take the whole thing way too seriously. If the script had catered for every issue that has been used as a stick to beat it with it would have ended up an extraordinarily dull, preachy and probably incomprehensible show. As it was it was one of the best pieces of entertainment the BBC or indeed any network has produced in years. That's exactly the way I feel Ellie. Much of the criticism I have seen (if it had been implemented) would have added absolutely nothing in dramatic story-telling value (and in fact, if shows fall into this "please every faction" trap, it robs them of their creative juice). Also I think pretty much all the nit-picky criticisms that we see of Season 4 now, could have been asked of the show right from the get-go (you know, like during Season 1 and 2 when the show was universally praised by fandom and everyone seemed in total awe of it) if you had wanted to micro-examine it during those early seasons. I feel that while valid criticisms may be out there, there is also a tendency for folks to lace into a show later on in its lifespan because it is just something different to talk about. :-)) |
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