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Post by MagdaFR on Sept 6, 2021 1:13:34 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Sept 6, 2021 1:14:22 GMT
There is a podcast!
But why he has to ask about Marvel!
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Post by MagdaFR on Sept 6, 2021 1:18:16 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Sept 6, 2021 1:21:31 GMT
I wonder if he interviewed them together or separately. He says the podcast with BC is this week! Cool! I can’t wait for some decent interview about the film!
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Post by MagdaFR on Sept 6, 2021 1:26:45 GMT
This reminds me that one of the last post I read on Golden Derby before the Venice premiere was by a guy who was sure that Clayton Davis watched the film, hated it and erased it from his predictions. He wasn’t predicting the film for months! I don’t know if he will do it but he clearly just watched it at Telluride and tweeted very nice words about it! He has it for BP (3rd), BD (3rd), BA (2nd), BSActress (1st), BSActor (5th), adapted screenplay (1st)
Edit: that's the order he wrote them, not the odds (I think)
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Post by MagdaFR on Sept 6, 2021 1:46:48 GMT
I don't know if this from Louis Wain or TPOTD
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Post by onebluestocking on Sept 6, 2021 3:08:36 GMT
Every review seems to be announcing that spoiler. I was surprised, but I guess it's okay with Jane Campion? Maybe she wanted just one surprise twist: the ending.
He referred once to experimenting with boys in his school days, in an old interview. If people are complaining about taking roles from gay actors, though, their issue is the same: someone who identifies as straight playing a role that could have gone to a gay actor. Past experiences aren't what they are talking about.
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Post by mllemass on Sept 6, 2021 5:41:56 GMT
IndieWire did put that review on Twitter, and people went after them for not only spoiling the plot, but for the idea that gay actors should play gay parts.
About the plot - someone defended the review, saying that the book came out in 1967. But then others pointed out that it was an obscure book that not too many people would have known. Also, it was a plot point that hadn’t been revealed in any of the movie’s media, so it was clearly meant to be discovered as you watched the movie.
I’m now thinking about other movies and their plots. Most movies have been based on books (e.g. every Stephen King book). But just because a book exists doesn’t mean the plot of the movie should be spoiled. Even movies based on history, that anyone could easily look up, shouldn’t be spoiled! Remember the reactions to The Imitation Game? People were amazed by the story that they knew nothing about, even though it was public knowledge. Can you imagine a review saying “Alan Turing invented a code-breaking machine that helped end WWII, and was gay and killed himself”.
I’m disgusted by reviews like that! I don’t even spoil movies when I talk to my friends about them. Even when they ask for spoilers, I won’t do it in case they ever do decide to watch it one day. But maybe it’s just me!
When Brokeback Mountain came out and I saw it and loved it, I convinced friends to go see it with me so that I could watch it again (I saw it 4 times while it was in theatres). My friends knew nothing about it other than what was being talked about in the media - that it was controversial and about gay cowboys. My friends’ reactions were the same - they loved it. Also, they said ‘I didn’t know it was about that!” And “Why didn’t you tell me what happened?” But if I had told them that there was nothing controversial about it, and described the plot to them, they would have missed out on the experience of discovering it while watching it for themselves.
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Post by mllemass on Sept 6, 2021 6:10:10 GMT
When the movie Pride came out and I saw it at TIFF, right away people assumed all the gay characters were played by gay actors (many, but not all, were), probably because of Andrew Scott being in it.
There were so many interviews with the director, questioning why he hadn’t taken the opportunity to cast gay actors - the same discussion that’s still going on today. I remember the director explaining that if they had decided to hire only gay actors to play the gay characters, many of the gay actors in the movie wouldn’t have been in it. He explained that there were gay actors who didn’t want to become known for playing gay parts because it would limit the roles they were offered. And there were other gay actors who hadn’t come out. None of them would have agreed to be in the movie if they had said they were only hiring gay actors.
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Post by sorcerersupreme on Sept 6, 2021 7:02:48 GMT
There is a podcast! But why he has to ask about Marvel! This bothers me more than it should. I just find it disrespectful that you only mention Dunst' performance and don't make silly irrelevant CBM references but with Benedict you don't mention anything about his performance in that tweet but make a stupid, irrelevant Dr Strange reference and bring up Tom Holland and Spiderman? Like what?! Ugh. Anyone know who he has for Best Actor as nr 1? Seeing as he has Benedict as nr 2. Is it Dinklage?
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