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Jun 15, 2023 17:26:22 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 15, 2023 17:26:22 GMT
About the click-baity and disinformation nature of IndiWire, this thing about Henry Sugar/his Netflix film(s) is insignificant and people will soon understand what he was really talking about but some days ago they published a quote from this same interview (only that quote. They waited to publish the whole thing) about Anderson talking fondly about Bill Murray. The only reason it was so relevant that they couldn't wait to a closer date to the film release was they wanted to create a controversy and get some easy clicks.
Also very pathetic of "serious" film journalists to promote the out of context quotes and acting like if Anderson was attacking Netflix!
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Jun 15, 2023 17:41:38 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 15, 2023 17:41:38 GMT
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Jun 15, 2023 22:07:04 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 15, 2023 22:07:04 GMT
Again, a nasty tweet with a very out of context quote,
They are really evil here trying to making him sounds like he doesn't care for the other more humble writers when he literally says he does in the actual interview.
The 'Henry Sugar' viral misleading quote is harmless in comparison but you can see how not just this site works but all the mediocre ones that reproduce the same lies and reported them without bothering to check if they are true.
EDITED I still blocked a lot of commenters who didn't bothered to read the whole article. They are idiots easily provoked by fake news! They are the ones feedings these malicious sites!
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Jun 16, 2023 1:27:57 GMT
Post by sgev1977 on Jun 16, 2023 1:27:57 GMT
At least this copy and paste site didn’t get it wrong, www.darkhorizons.com/wes-andersons-sugar-is-several-short-films/And this Twitter account, But they are the only two quoting The Daily Beast (don’t take me wrong, they also could be just awful!) instead of the tricky IndieWire. I also found interesting that The Daily Beast quote is very similar to the one in Cahiers du Cinema. He already revealed to them that Fiennes was playing Dahl and that he didn’t considered the whole thing a long film except in length (if I understood the French interview right!) because the stories weren’t connected like the ones in The French Dispatch. Then I wonder why outlets like Variety and almost everyone who is an important name in the USA media decide to copy and paste a mediocre publication that clearly only cares for clickbaity fake quotes when, if they are interested in the “copy and paste” business, they could hire someone who read French and have a more interesting and probably more truthful information reading exclusives in more serious magazines around the world! But clearly they don’t like to make any effort to write pieces! Anyway, I shouldn’t be surprised because I remember a few misleading tweets/headlines and malicious questions during TPOTD’s long press tour but I still can’t believe they did that thing about the WGA to Anderson. Again, they already widely publicized a quote in which he talked fondly about his long friendship with Bill Murray a few days ago.
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Jun 16, 2023 6:20:35 GMT
Post by jbc12 on Jun 16, 2023 6:20:35 GMT
Again, they already widely publicized a quote in which he talked fondly about his long friendship with Bill Murray a few days ago. Sorry Sgev, but I don't understand. Why are they quoting him about Bill Murray? He has nothing to do with the project. And, why is that one of the misleading headlines? Eta: Is Murray in Henry Sugar and I've just missed it? Eta 2: Now I've read the interview... Again, a nasty tweet with a very out of context quote, It is quite misleading, isn't it? They ask him "What relationship do you have to the WGA strike going on right now?" and his answer is completely logical and sympathetic. This click-bait culture doesn't do anybody any favours.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 16, 2023 10:18:22 GMT
Bill Murray was supposedly playing a role in Asteroid City. Before the shooting he got COVID and abandoned the project but by when it was reported that he was replaced by Steve Carell in the film, he was in trouble because he was fired from another project for inappropriate behavior (if I remember well he kissed a crew member with who he had developed a friendly relationship on set until then). Then, a few anecdotes with famous actresses in which he behaved rude or was inappropriately “too friendly” or both at the same time resurfaced. He has always been a difficult and erratic person but, and I’m not trying to justify him at all (it should had been horrible for those women to deal with such a man), he wasn’t even accused of any crime! Just of being extremely creepy!
Anyway, before publishing the main piece yesterday, probably the same day they got the interview, they published an article about how the writer talked with Anderson and he told them that no, he didn’t fired Murray because that scandal. That he couldn’t talk about the experiences of others with him but that Murray was just too close friend to him. He is part of his own family because he is the godfather of his daughter and that yeah, he is open to work with him again. He didn’t mentioned it but Murray supposedly defended Anderson from another famous Hollywood bully Gene Hackman during the shooting of The Royal Tenenbaums. So yeah, everyone knows they are friends for ages.
Anyway, that quote is not even in the finished interview but they immediately wrote a piece about it and widely promoted it like Anderson defending Murray when he didn’t even tried to defend his allegedly acts! He talked about his own relationship with him. But it doesn’t matter. It’s obvious why it could be polemic in a moment in which if someone is “cancelled”, he should be completely disowned by even close friends and family. The question is which other reason could they had to anticipate just that bit of a long interview and write a whole piece around it, if not to provoke a scandal and trying to make Anderson look guilty by association of something he wasn’t part of.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 16, 2023 10:47:11 GMT
They added a community note to the tweet! I actually think community notes are the best (only good?) thing Musk did for Twitter! It’s very difficult that “mobs” get too huge when at certain point you have a big note, added and voted by people with sources, saying the tweet is a complete lie! I just voted for it. The first time I vote for one of these!
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Jun 16, 2023 12:56:26 GMT
Post by jbc12 on Jun 16, 2023 12:56:26 GMT
Thank you for that excellent explanation, sgev1977.
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Jun 17, 2023 0:13:04 GMT
Post by sgev1977 on Jun 17, 2023 0:13:04 GMT
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Jun 17, 2023 0:38:33 GMT
Post by sgev1977 on Jun 17, 2023 0:38:33 GMT
By the way, I just hate that when I try to find some news about Anderson’s Roald Dahl movie I just see a bunch of articles saying the same lies! How it’s possible that formal press could be so uninformed? And it’s not even secret info, it’s all there!
Imagine what happens with actual important and urgent issues!
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