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Post by roverpup on Jul 29, 2023 23:31:27 GMT
This is all very confusing to me so I’ve kept out of any discussion. The waivers seem strange to me- when, in other strikes, have there been waivers to allow some folks to continue working? When have some peach pickers (not scabs) been allowed back into the fields and what’s the process for choosing who gets to “legally” work during a strike? I don’t understand that. As I understand it, these "waivers" aren't really waivers in the true sense of the word. Waiver means to decline to exercise a rule or right. They aren't just allowing productions to go ahead because they're "small" or "independent" - there are strict conditions. What the unions have done is grant productions to go ahead ONLY if they sign an agreement to follow the demands for a new contract that SAG-ACTRA presented to The Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers (and which AMPTP rejected). Meaning the production companies that are allowed to go ahead are being allowed by the union because they have agreed ahead of time to all the union's demands (which have been rejected by AMPTP). SAG-ACTRA isn't striking against every production. They are on strike against the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers. Granted a LOT of productions are a part of AMPTP (almost all). But small, independent productions that agree to all the union demands who aren't bound by AMPTP are in the mix for employment for casts and crew. I guess it would be kind of like (and I realise this analogy may be hugely flawed) if I was still a teacher and a unions member and if the teacher Union went on strike against the public school board because of wages but I sought employment during the strike as a tutor but ONLY if my new employer agreed to pay me exactly what my union was seeking in our new contract. Where it becomes sticky, to me, is that unlike my theoretical "teacher on strike" these little production companies can eventually sell their product to AMPTP members which would be against the spirit of the strike. And I am sure there are other issues that complicate matters.
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Post by queenzod on Jul 29, 2023 23:53:11 GMT
That’s very clear, RP. Thank you very much! 🙏🏻
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 5, 2023 15:48:10 GMT
I think that from a spectator point of view, AI would be a horrible idea because something produced by a machine just couldn’t be art but I also think that something written by a committee sounds like terrible art,
Anyway, I like mini series not a big fan of episodic TV! I hope they aren’t including mini series here and if they do at least we have non-American TV, I guess!
I honestly think they should center on important issues like AI and residuals. I remember that when Taylor Sheridan said he will quit TV if his own guild is successful with this demand some writers actually said he should comply and “hire” them even if he wouldn’t use them so they were actually demanding to be pay without doing a work! That’s kinda insane IMHO
I can’t imagine successful and talented writers agreeing with this.
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 16, 2023 23:33:47 GMT
Just read the comments! x.com/variety/status/1691923284915376369?s=61&t=zPi8LNXgo1ojcMDphmjG3gI doubt it’s just a very few showrunners or that they are just a fabrication of Variety. Of course, a real successful artist doesn’t want to compromise his/her work hiring a group of people they just don’t need! I don’t know! I tend to think that the issue is that a lot of the members aren’t really professional writers and sadly they are in an industry with a lot of competition but asking to be pay when a) don’t needed; b) you will not do anything; c) while forcing others to teach you the business is insane! I just can’t believe this is still considered an important unmovable point in the negotiation.
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 16, 2023 23:46:02 GMT
Some quotes,
Also this contradiction is fascinating,
Successful awarded writers vs mid-level writers who can’t sustain a lifestyle…
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 29, 2023 12:47:03 GMT
This doesn't make sense,
The BBC isn't a struck company!
On the other hand, Netflix *is* a struck company!
He was careful of only mentioning his non-Netflix "independent" movie and not the big Netflix movie also in the festival that casually also released a trailer yesterday, tho.! Lol. Still, SAG supposedly banned even "career" events.
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Post by sgev1977 on Sept 8, 2023 13:22:52 GMT
And Jessica Chastain is being attacked for being at Venice with her indie film during the strike!
Just for curiosity, I searched on Twitter for "Adam Driver" "SAG", I saw two persons defending him but no one attacking him. The rest were just applauses for his criticism to Netflix and Amazon. His movie is distributed by the same indie company of Chastain's film!
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Post by queenzod on Sept 11, 2023 3:47:36 GMT
So Drew Barrymore is a scab. Who’d a thunk it?
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Post by sgev1977 on Sept 11, 2023 10:55:03 GMT
The View never stopped and there was a little fuss at the beginning but then everyone forgot about it.
I think during the last strike a few talk shows continued without writers then when it ended the culprits went to an internal process but most of them were cleared by the guild. We will see.
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Post by mllemass on Sept 11, 2023 11:16:35 GMT
I watch The View whenever I can, and they always mention their support for the striking writers they desperately want back. They also apologize for the show being so disorganized because they have to write their own “material” - really just notes on the topics they discuss.
And unlike Drew Barrymore’s show, they often have no guests and it’s just the four or five of them talking. They still talk with politicians and authors promoting their stuff, but they don’t have anyone on promoting movies or tv.
The late night talk shows rely on entire staffs of writers, even if they want us to think that Jimmy Kimmel comes up with all that stuff alone. And also, the hosts themselves are writers, too, and are also on strike.
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