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Post by sgev1977 on Jul 14, 2023 14:42:18 GMT
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Post by mllemass on Jul 14, 2023 23:23:36 GMT
As you may remember, I had renewed my TIFF membership this year, in the hopes that a Benedict movie would premiere (although it was unlikely). But now, with this strike, TIFF has sent me this email:
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Post by sgev1977 on Jul 15, 2023 0:01:44 GMT
Well, hopefully it’s resolved quickly! But I read somewhere that Drescher said that the studios doesn’t want to seat with them yet. It seems they want to do with actors, the same they did with writers although it seems they are more nervous this time.
Having said that, I think the sad truth is that studios, especially streaming services could easily survive without film/series shootings for a few months. I mean, Netflix has a lot of “content” waiting to be released and they also have all those non-English productions that attract American audiences. I don’t know, I think it’s probably the premieres and the press what should hurt them most and mostly to the theatrical productions.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jul 19, 2023 10:39:46 GMT
I love this!
Little films will continue to be made and, at least, some people will continue working. Only big studios should be the ones affected.
Also they are authorizing not just filming but also promotion so these little films will get a lot of attention because entertainment media is desperate for news. Yesterday, one of the new project was widely reported!
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Post by sgev1977 on Jul 29, 2023 20:12:58 GMT
I understand the criticism to SAG for giving too many waivers to powerful indie companies but on the other hand, a) they aren’t “directly” the problem (they could in the future sell their production to Netflix or Amazon) so it looks like she is castigating to innocent parties; b) a lot of humble workers who depend of productions like these will suffer much more than any big studio!
She, of course, is being acclaimed for this! Idiots on social media will now demand that actors in permitted or even legally demanded productions to publicly renounce their jobs!
By the way, the other day I read an article about soap operas hiring non-WGA writers to continue their productions and I remember I had read that they belonged to a different guild but no, it’s the actors who doesn’t belong to SAG. The writers are WGA like film and series writers. In the piece they mentioned that during the last WGA strike, soap operas did the same and those non-SAG writers were banned to join the guild as other “scab” writers. They named a few of them (apparently George Clooney was also a some kind of suspect because he did some work like writer to finishing something but then he privately “managed” the issue) and I remember that a WGA member said on Twitter that his mother did some “illegal” work as writer during a strike and that her Hollywood career totally finished after it so I googled the person the article called the biggest name in the “black list” and who publicly renounced to WGA and said he would continued working during the strike and guess what? He is the 12 Years Slave scriptwriter! He won an Oscar after being an “official” “convicted” “scab”! He wasn’t eligible for the WGA award because he was banned by it but at the end, it didn’t matter at all! He is still very successful! I guess, it was more difficult for less established writers but it seems the consequences aren’t too grim as people are saying. Of course, I would never recommend anyone to be a “traitor” (Of course, I don’t have the power to do it! Lol) but it seems to me that guilds aren’t very powerful like they claim to be! 😬 It’s very complex!
I just hope they get what they want. At least the fairest things! But it seems to me there will be a lot of suffering and division for the less powerful guild members and other crew workers and at least streaming services, will barely suffer. Traditional studios probably will be immediately affected because the pr for their films but Netflix, for good or bad, won’t need American actors and writer for a few months. Maybe I’m very pessimistic but I can see producers to let humble guild members to perish while social media idiots cheering the chaos and thinking they are somehow helping.
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Post by queenzod on Jul 29, 2023 20:32:53 GMT
This is all very confusing to me so I’ve kept out of any discussion. The waivers seem strange to me- when, in other strikes, have there been waivers to allow some folks to continue working? When have some peach pickers (not scabs) been allowed back into the fields and what’s the process for choosing who gets to “legally” work during a strike? I don’t understand that.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jul 29, 2023 20:39:15 GMT
Also I think these kind of comments are extremely naive…
Of course, he supposedly is in the knows but it’s not just studio heads who proved not to be very smart, journalists have repeatedly show they are very blind to facts. Barbie’s quality probably helped it but also they clearly spend a huge amount of money in publicity and Oppenheimer is by one of those very rare super star directors with a massive following (again, thanks in part to his past job as a comic book director) so they were destined to be event movies. Not very different to Marvel movies, so why he thinks there is a real momentum and any blockbuster released in the immediate future will be so successful like these two? He just forgot that a week before “Cinema was dead” because Indiana Jones did a lot of money but not enough? (Of course, he forgot it! They don’t have long term memory!).
I think it’s good news for the guilds that these movies are being moved. I think studios are obsessed with pr and that’s what it affects them most but they probably have a plan and know what they are doing and it’s not very smart to think “enemies” aren’t smart.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jul 29, 2023 20:47:42 GMT
This is all very confusing to me so I’ve kept out of any discussion. The waivers seem strange to me- when, in other strikes, have there been waivers to allow some folks to continue working? When have some peach pickers (not scabs) been allowed back into the fields and what’s the process for choosing who gets to “legally” work during a strike? I don’t understand that. They are independent companies who retroactively accepted the guild conditions so they aren’t “struck” companies represented by AMPTP (the streaming and big Hollywood companies who refused their conditions). In other words, they aren’t the big “bosses” against they are protesting. For example, they initially permitted a lot of cheap biblical movies with probably almost amateur members but kinda controversial, they now are permitting big but still independent movies with huge names. Still, they aren’t the people against they are protesting.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jul 29, 2023 20:58:36 GMT
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Post by queenzod on Jul 29, 2023 21:14:32 GMT
Jeez what a mess!
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