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Post by sgev1977 on Jul 11, 2023 23:50:01 GMT
When we will have a Henry Sugar trailer?!! I’m guessing it will be more “different” to these typical Roald Dahl adaptations/Classical British movies for kids just because it’s Wes Anderson and because the stories are more daring.
About this trailer, I guess it looks lovely. It’s by the Paddington director and it’s noticeable which it’s other way to saying there isn’t anything new here. Nothing bad with that! But yeah, this is the third Wonka movie! It also looks a little like last year Matilda. I found interesting that it’s a musical but they didn’t show any musical numbers!
Chalamet is a wonderful young actor but I think he isn’t so whimsical nor quirky nor ambiguous as he looks suggests. One you see him acting or talking, he is just a modern typical American kid! He doesn’t work in period pieces. We will have to wait but here he looks like well… a modern typical American kid not like a fantastical and whimsical magic being.
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Wonka
Jul 12, 2023 0:58:34 GMT
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Post by roverpup on Jul 12, 2023 0:58:34 GMT
I thought he was boring as hell in Dune, almost unwatchable.
Of course I didn't like anything else about that movie either.
So, I'll give him a second chance - when he plays with BC.😁
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Wonka
Jul 12, 2023 1:25:15 GMT
Post by sgev1977 on Jul 12, 2023 1:25:15 GMT
Well, we will see what happens with A Complete Unknown. Everything seems to suggests that there will be an actor’s strike and who knows if it will be resolved quickly. At least, it also seems that studios bosses are very anxious about it. They clearly weren’t with the writers!
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Wonka
Jul 12, 2023 4:22:10 GMT
Post by queenzod on Jul 12, 2023 4:22:10 GMT
That Wonka trailer I found to be, uh, bad. If it’s a musical, why not show the singing? It’s like when Mozart took the music out of the ballet so everyone was just clomping around in silence - it just seemed odd.
And TC does not have the weird/bizarre chops to be playing such a role. I don’t understand why people go bonkers over him, other than the fact he’s got an amazing jaw and soulful eyes. I agree with sgev that he’s not quirky enough for this. He seems to do best when he’s not actually talking, lol, just looking moody or deep.
I did have a laugh at Hugh Grant, tho, and Olivia Colman as the baddie has promise. But the rest of it (including the overly cute, plucky black child clearly stuffed in there to meet some kind of quota or something), to be way cringy. 😬
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Post by onebluestocking on Jul 12, 2023 5:55:21 GMT
I didn't like Johnny Depp as Wonka, but for anyone Gen X or older it's hard to beat Gene Wilder. Although he was intense and creepy in the role. My oldest was scared of him. Timothee seems a little ho hum. This does look visually amazing, I'll give it a try. People keep complaining that it's "another remake," but it seems to be a prequel and nothing to do with the other story.
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Wonka
Jul 12, 2023 11:33:20 GMT
Post by sgev1977 on Jul 12, 2023 11:33:20 GMT
He was stunning in Call Me by Your Name but if you watch the film he was playing a typical normal teenager. Yes, a teenager who falls in love with a young man but still just a normal kid. Part of the charm of that film is that it’s not about someone conflicted by its feelings or what other would think of him. It’s in the 1980s but it’s a very contemporary story. No homophobia, no AIDS, no any big conflict. Just a normal kid having feelings for a handsome guy who later returns to his home and left the teen boy sad for losing his first love. That’s all! There is no ambiguity nor anything eccentric.
But in both Little Women and The French Dispatch, he seemed out of place. He was just too modern and too normal. It’s odd because if you see photos of him, he looks eccentric and whimsical but when he is acting, he is just a young normal dude! His was the weakest segment in The French Dispatch and it’s so ironic that Anderson is so frequently criticizing for not casting POC when the film had three male protagonists in three different stories and the other two were a Latino and a Black man being wonderful in their segments but the media centered on the one with the white kid! We will see with Dylan. Another 1960s kid! But he has prepared for years and I guess the 1960s are more “modern” than the 19th. He won’t be “trapped” in Anderson eccentric world so that also should help him.
I haven’t watched Dune.
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Post by mllemass on Jul 12, 2023 15:12:33 GMT
I LOVE the original movie! I didn’t see it until it showed up on tv, and I was just blown away by it. I remember watching the credits at the end (yes, I did that even way back then), and discovered that it was a book with a slightly different name. So on my next trip to the library, I borrowed the book and read it - something I also did all the time. My mother loved the song Candy Man, which was on the radio all the time, and we bought her the 45 record of it.
I saw the Johnny Depp version when it came on tv, and it was too creepy for me, even though it was probably more faithful to the book. I have no desire to see any more versions. Gene Wilder was goofy and funny and snarky and brilliant.
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Wonka
Nov 4, 2023 12:18:38 GMT
Post by sgev1977 on Nov 4, 2023 12:18:38 GMT
This!
I hope it succeeds and that’s good but it was perplexing when it was presented as something opposite to Marvel! (Chalamet or his fans suggesting he would take DiCaprio “advice” and not doing superhero stuff so he instead going for things like… Dune and this!) The same with Barbie.
They are both “products” (no matter how good they are) and their success doesn’t mean something is changing in Hollywood!
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Wonka
Nov 28, 2023 22:46:52 GMT
Post by MagdaFR on Nov 28, 2023 22:46:52 GMT
Well, the first reactions are out and they seem generally positive.
Ehrlich is a stan of Paddington.
I don't remember JD's version specially charming or having gravitas.
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Wonka
Nov 29, 2023 0:24:52 GMT
Post by sgev1977 on Nov 29, 2023 0:24:52 GMT
Paddington films are adorable so the director is a plus.
I don’t think Tim Burton version is so bad as some people think is it. It probably isn’t great neither but surely some Burton backlash and the Gene Wilder version (which isn’t THAT great neither! It’s good and Wilder was always great, tho.) worked against it.
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